Setting up another AR-15 and wondering what LPVO to go with. I obviously want something reliable and repeatable (tracking POA/POI, zero retention) and has good eye relief, but also important is the eye box, easy to get behind. I've tried the NX8 1-8x24mm and for me the eye box is tight.
Wanting something with excellent FOV at lowest power variable (true 1x preferred) and no more than 8x top end. Illuminated reticle and FFP.
What's out there that checks all the boxes? Perhaps the NF ATACR?
NF ATACR. The Vortex 1-10x isn't bad, but I prefer the NF.
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I haven't found a FFP LPVO that I was happy with. The NF 1-8 has been the closest. They all suffer at the low end of magnification, which is the whole purpose of an LPVO. Before I went FFP 1-6ish I'd go FFP 2-10 with an offset dot.
If you're willing to go SFP there are a lot of excellent options.
The Razor 1-6 can be had with Mils but the JM1 reticle is the most useful AR BDC reticle I've found.
I'll second the Credo HX suggestion. It's daylight bright and the glass is excellent. They're lighter than the Razor and a good bit less expensive.
The Steiner 1-4 is a great budget option and can be had for $500ish used. Somebody (Eurooptic?) was closing out the Steiner 1-5s recently.
I have a Vudu 1-8 and love it. For 8x the eyebox is good, the glass is great, it's daylight bright, and the BDC is terrible.
I’ll third the Trijicon Credo HX 1-6 but the only one that is truly daylight bright is the one with hunter holds bdc reticle and the red dot, green is not good here. I have two Accupower’s with the red segmented circle, a big bold reticle with a fine aiming dot. I was sure I could shoot it as fast as the daylight bright dot on my HX but the timer proved me wrong.
There’s a lot of discussion on the best LPVO and a really good video on YouTube is out there.
Way more money than I want to spend but it is worth a look.
The other affordable LPVO that is getting great reviews is the Primary Arms Japan made PLX 1-8 but I haven’t seen one yet.
Looks like SFP has more options. Not a Vortex fan, but looking at the 1-6 Razor. The Kahles K16i has my attention, but requires an aftermarket turret straight out the gate. wtf Kahles??
I have owned the SWFA 1–6 HD for several years and I’m very happy with it. Great on one X and a very useful FFP rericle. Not daylight bright. Super durable and holds zero really well.
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I have the SWFA 1-6 as well. I'm wanting something with actual daylight bright and a larger FOV. Razor and K16i seem to be the top 2 currently as the S&B CC is waaaayyy too much $$.
I'm a big fan of the Razor HD Gen II 1-6X24 with 3 of 'em in my gun room. For a more compact, lighter option, the Steiner P4Xi 1-4, goes on my AR pistols.
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I'm a big fan of the Razor HD Gen II 1-6X24 with 3 of 'em in my gun room. For a more compact, lighter option, the Steiner P4Xi 1-4, goes on my AR pistols.
If lpvo is the answer, I think ur right.
I’m a bit off of the lpvo thing right now. Only have 3 left.
1-6.5 bushy sfp
1-6 razor gen 2 e
1-4 Steiner.
Until someone makes parallax, sub 20oz, zero stop 10mil open turrets I’m not testing any more. I can’t shoot carbines good enough, far enough to warrant mpvo’s and honestly aimpoints are just easier to shoot.
That said im Too cheap for the s&b 1-8 dual focal plane, and the atacr doesn’t open up any new doors for my use. Both are “better” but not exactly a huge enough step to warrant putting them on guns that never get used.
The Steiner 1-4 is such an enigma for me.. the build quality is definitely lacking, so are the turrets and the reticle is pretty meh. So is 4x is 2023
but that 17oz weight, bright dot, and good glass is appealing for lighter kind build.
OPone thing worth mentioning and I played around with it a bit this summer on the last nx8
Is to run the scope as far back as you can in the mount.
Over the years with cantilever mounts I’ve always tended to run the scope as far forward as I can, but the higher 1.93 made me realize that the eyebox and eye relief shrinks forward not backwards as the mag range goes up..
It’s not acog close but it’s more towards 2.75” then the normal 4”
That and the 1.93 keeps the eye and neck/jaw position more similar through different shooting positions.
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