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2014 Skidoo Summit R ETEC 163 Rev xm.
It’s on an alum trailer.
Know a guy selling it for another guy that moved outside.
Just an idea.
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Aluminum trailer could be worth more than the sled.
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Don't bet on it.
We were going to buy my wife a 2 - 3 year old , Skidoo last spring. Turned out we could get a new one for same price as grossly "overvalued" used Covid machines. Cheaper than some advertised in fact. Then.
We were nearly the last to order, so may not get it for months yet, but it should be here. R&S has a stack of them in the yard, and has started dealer prep on some.
ETEKs did not get a good recomendation (for us), from any of several dealers. We are getting a 600 Expedition for her.
Just what I need - another machine to service and maintain - we have 3 snow machines already. And other stuff...
Looks like I get upgraded from the '93 Bravo to the 2012 AC1100 Turbo, bought in 2017 with first milage oil change due. Good price, but spent year and a half in shop after Kotz return, fixing up stuff previous owners had f'kd up, hence the "good price", mostly waiting for AC to get off their ass and provide a clutch! Broke even for value, after repairs and upgrades. Works too well now!
I'm gonna put my eye out with that Turbo, trying to climb a tree or something....
Of course if nothing else runs, the Bravo will.
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I think the machine I posted is a powder/high mark type?
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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Between $4000-$6500. All depends on how many miles it has on it. Low low miles probably closer to $6000-$6500 high miles over 2500 plus miles closer to $4000. Also if i got it right the sled you have is on the gen 3 chassis.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Tks. What does Gen 3 chassis mean? Pros/cons?
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Tks. What does Gen 3 chassis mean? Pros/cons? They actually refer to it as the xm chassis not gen 3 so my mistake on that. Everything I read people liked the xm chassis but it is a 9-10yr old sled, so it’s 9-10 yr old technology. They are on Gen 5 chassis now with 850 etecs. 850 etecs been out for awhile. How many miles on it?
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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The xm is pretty decent. 163 is a lot of track on that chassis though, not sure you will have the crazy power you are after.
I've given up the mountain sled thing, but all things considered it would be a pretty fun way to die.
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High marking on the wall is safer. And cheaper, but same concept. About the most worstest thing can happen is getting caught in the zipper.
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It was a spur of the moment thought since it was sitting there on a trailer. I guess it’s it really a trail/make a trail machine.
If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli
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It was a spur of the moment thought since it was sitting there on a trailer. I guess it’s it really a trail/make a trail machine. It’s a mtn sled that thing is far from being a trail sled. Trail sleds are short track.
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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Yep, hard to steer on packed trail with that track, clutching too jumpy, track lugs tear easily because they're so tall, rear of track doesn't articulate.
They're usually beat to sht by joy-ridin toy boys (even low miles ones).
Fk powder sleds, they can't do any work, not like a nice utility machine that was maintained and operated by an adult.
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Yep, hard to steer on packed trail with that track, clutching too jumpy, track lugs tear easily because they're so tall, rear of track doesn't articulate.
They're usually beat to sht by joy-ridin toy boys (even low miles ones).
Fk powder sleds, they can't do any work, not like a nice utility machine that was maintained and operated by an adult. A perfect description of my AC1100 turbo, and obviously, its first owner!
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163 trail sled ...lol your killing me here....lol
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I bought 2 trail machines for $500. Just gotta shop right
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I bought 2 trail machines for $500. Just gotta shop right 95 skidoos?
Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego. Suckin' on my titties like you wanted me.
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I bought 2 trail machines for $500. Just gotta shop right Heck yeah! I'm curious too, what did u get? Going on 5 years of hauling slabs, firewood and pulling a trail groomer with a yamaha enticer 2. Was $700. Yanked a 1.5" lug track off a broke down trail rmk. Yanked some wide powder skis off a 700 rmk. About the only upgrade was "free sht". My neighbor got a $500 SKS 500 efi. That efi is amazing, sled is always in the right tune. It came with an upgraded 1.5" lug track, fox shocks and wide ski skins. Dude got a reclining chair to spice up the deal. Livin large, haha!
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Unless you're an experienced powder/mountain rider the Summit's not the machine for you. Narrow ski stance and a long tall lugged track is for swimming through deep fluffy snow and using a lot of body English to steer. An old fat guy like me would look like Arty Johnson on his tricycle. If you're looking for a trail/back country/utility machine then look for an Expedition. 20" wide 154" track with an articulated skid, 2 speed "transmission" for slow speed/pulling and enough engine choices to do whatever your have in mind (including a 180hp turbo 4 stroke)
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I have an always garaged, 1997 Ski Doo Summit 500 with reverse, ski widening kit installed and only 1,650 miles. Never had anything but premium fuel in it and it runs awesome. No cracks in the cowling at all. The only thing NOT going for it is age. I turned down $2,000 for it the other day, though I probably shouldn't have. A 2014 I would guess would be realistically $7K if in good shape and not a ton of miles/hours. No clue on an estimate for the trailer.
I ordered a new 2023 Tundra so I guess the next decent offer I get for the Summit, I will probably take it. The problem with older sleds is it is so hard to find parts if they're needed. New dealerships often won't work on sleds older than 20 years: at least Compeaus in Fairbanks won't.
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