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Old iron like this will be invaluable in the decades to come.

Whether it’s a Jew/muzzy or a yellow chinaman that sets off the next big one, what was suburbia will be put under the plow by tractors just like this.

Ascertain first that the engine is actually stuck and it's not a case of the pressure plate being frozen to the fly wheel. That happened to one my dad owned..mb

Dillonbuck;
Good afternoon, I hope that wherever this finds you it finds you well.

You are, in my somewhat checkered experience at any rate, not wrong in suggesting that bolts can be broken and sometimes much easier than we'd suspected.

Further, sometimes I suspect it's a bit of a mechanic's dark double entendre to name that tool a "breaker bar".....

My thought and again it might be entirely incorrect, but my thought about going in from the front end of the crank is that if something is well and truly stuck internally and we spin with force and vigor on say the rear wheel, we're perhaps endangering axles, pinions, etc.

If they were working, there's no use wrecking them and making more work for ourselves.

Admittedly I have been in many instances the author of my own sad tale and made more work for myself by not entirely thinking through my actions.

To me, its been an interesting exchange and I appreciate most of the responses here, even the ones that just made me chuckle.

All the best and good hunting.

Dwayne

Sure, pard.

very possible ...

We did that many times when I was young when our 8N wouldn’t crank. Can’t believe it hasn’t been tried yet.

I have a 1966 Oliver 1850 diesel. I blew up the battery one day trying to start it. I didn't have an immediate need for the tractor so I let it set for 2 years in the barn until I needed it and put a new battery in it. It started on the first turn of the crank. I'm about to put it to sleep for the winter so I need to get it running again for about an hour to get everything loose until April.

kwg

Trying a rolling start will bend connecting rods, and/or trash some transmission gears. 2N- - -not 3!- - - -D'OH! N-series Fords don't have sleeves- - - -I've rebuilt enough of them to know. They run the same pistons and rings as a flathead V8, and the connecting rods are very similar- - - -pretty thin and spindly, and easy to bend. A 50/50 mix of acetone and automatic transmission fluid works better than most commercial penetrating oils- - - -3 or 4 ounces in all the cylinders, screw the spark plugs back in hand tight, and wait about a week- - - -then try the 2 X 4 on the rear wheel.

75% acetone, 25% Tranny fluid.

Not this kind of tranny fluid.

Dwayne,

I've broken a crank bolt, and screwed up a balancer(different tale),
wouldn't rule out the ability to bust an axle too.


Never have, but I once sheared off the input shaft for a power divider.
Took 318 Detroit ponies and 3 or 4 bunny hops, going up a mountain log road road. Steep enough that 2nd hear was required, empty.

Hop, hop, hop, BANG!
The big iron sound that's makes you sick in the guts,
thinking
"F'! That sounded expensive!".
🤢🤢🤑🤑🤑🤑

Yeah, I did not go there.

You are very, very wrong here. They most definitely are a sleeved engine. Sleeves come in standard and in thin wall.

There's still an outfit over in Wichita Falls (TX) that rebuilds starters, generators and other stuff like that.
A lot of the oilfield folks carry breakdowns to them to be rebuilt. They've been doing it for years and better than factory!

Literally every 9/8/2n rebuild kit I've ever seen comes with cylinder sleeves.

My 6V '48 was dragging down and "killing" the battery pretty quick this summer. Got tired of hooking up the charger all the time so I broke down and pulled the starter. Cleaned all the connections really well from the battery posts to the starter and pulled the starter apart. Likely the original starter, and had a fairly good coating of "greasy" dirt throughout the armature and windings. Cleaned it all out with brake cleaner and rags. Figured try that before ordering a new starter. Spins now better/faster than I've ever seen it since dad bought the thing back in the early 70s. It's got all kinds of issues that need fixing, but turning over isn't one of them now. Check your starter and connections.

will do, thanks - I plan on pulling it next weekend

Couple of questions does it click once when you try to start it? Or is it locked in gear ?