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Oh, that would be you, bitch. Jimmy has been drinking cheap whiskey all day again in his single wide. Oh you poor little stalker. Got an elk pic for us? I’d settle for a clam shot. Ask, and you shall receive… Nice!
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300 yards for me, situation right and stay off the big bones. Been done. Lungs are lungs. Animals don’t go far with those punched thru. Not my first choice in caliber however.
Osky Thank You for that info. Most guys that I know from PA that go out west for elk, always take a magnum of 7mm or larger. If traveling a good distance, spending good $$ and on limited time it is probably best to take more power than needed. The cost for me to go elk hunting: gas to drive 60 miles each way, and the price of an in state elk tag. I would take nothing less powerful than a 30-06/7 mag for elk. Our typical shot is 300 to 400 yds, and power is significantly diminished at that range. Couple that with the fact that you often do not get that perfect butcher's shot at the lungs. My 7 STW w/ 162 gr Hornady leaves the muzzle at 3200 fps. According to the book, it was down to 2470 fps when it hit each of my last two bulls. Sometimes you have to start just under the root of the tail to reach the vitals, or sometimes all you can see of the bull is the front point of a shoulder. Carrying a 7-08, 6.5 Creed, 243, or a 22-250, I would pass on those questionable shots, and go home with a blank tag.
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Oh, that would be you, bitch. Jimmy has been drinking cheap whiskey all day again in his single wide. Oh you poor little stalker. Got an elk pic for us? I’d settle for a clam shot. Ask, and you shall receive… Nice! Kind of pale. Looks like it's been dead a while. I like it pink.
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Eat well.
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300 yards for me, situation right and stay off the big bones. Been done. Lungs are lungs. Animals don’t go far with those punched thru. Not my first choice in caliber however.
Osky Thank You for that info. Most guys that I know from PA that go out west for elk, always take a magnum of 7mm or larger. If traveling a good distance, spending good $$ and on limited time it is probably best to take more power than needed. The cost for me to go elk hunting: gas to drive 60 miles each way, and the price of an in state elk tag. I would take nothing less powerful than a 30-06/7 mag for elk. Our typical shot is 300 to 400 yds, and power is significantly diminished at that range. Couple that with the fact that you often do not get that perfect butcher's shot at the lungs. My 7 STW w/ 162 gr Hornady leaves the muzzle at 3200 fps. According to the book, it was down to 2470 fps when it hit each of my last two bulls. Sometimes you have to start just under the root of the tail to reach the vitals, or sometimes all you can see of the bull is the front point of a shoulder. Carrying a 7-08, 6.5 Creed, 243, or a 22-250, I would pass on those questionable shots, and go home with a blank tag. I guess I agree. I’m surprised no one recommended a 223 with fast twist and a 75 grain bullet at 2700 fps. Elk are easy to kill, or so I learned on the campfire, but as long as they are on their feet, I keep feeding them 180 grains of failure until they walk no more…
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300 yards for me, situation right and stay off the big bones. Been done. Lungs are lungs. Animals don’t go far with those punched thru. Not my first choice in caliber however.
Osky Thank You for that info. Most guys that I know from PA that go out west for elk, always take a magnum of 7mm or larger. If traveling a good distance, spending good $$ and on limited time it is probably best to take more power than needed. The cost for me to go elk hunting: gas to drive 60 miles each way, and the price of an in state elk tag. I would take nothing less powerful than a 30-06/7 mag for elk. Our typical shot is 300 to 400 yds, and power is significantly diminished at that range. Couple that with the fact that you often do not get that perfect butcher's shot at the lungs. My 7 STW w/ 162 gr Hornady leaves the muzzle at 3200 fps. According to the book, it was down to 2470 fps when it hit each of my last two bulls. Sometimes you have to start just under the root of the tail to reach the vitals, or sometimes all you can see of the bull is the front point of a shoulder. Carrying a 7-08, 6.5 Creed, 243, or a 22-250, I would pass on those questionable shots, and go home with a blank tag. I guess I agree. I’m surprised no one recommended a 223 with fast twist and a 75 grain bullet at 2700 fps. Elk are easy to kill, or so I learned on the campfire, but as long as they are on their feet, I keep feeding them 180 grains of failure until they walk no more… Based on the size of that bull, a .223 would have been more than adequate. Congratulations!
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300 yards for me, situation right and stay off the big bones. Been done. Lungs are lungs. Animals don’t go far with those punched thru. Not my first choice in caliber however.
Osky Thank You for that info. Most guys that I know from PA that go out west for elk, always take a magnum of 7mm or larger. If traveling a good distance, spending good $$ and on limited time it is probably best to take more power than needed. The cost for me to go elk hunting: gas to drive 60 miles each way, and the price of an in state elk tag. I would take nothing less powerful than a 30-06/7 mag for elk. Our typical shot is 300 to 400 yds, and power is significantly diminished at that range. Couple that with the fact that you often do not get that perfect butcher's shot at the lungs. My 7 STW w/ 162 gr Hornady leaves the muzzle at 3200 fps. According to the book, it was down to 2470 fps when it hit each of my last two bulls. Sometimes you have to start just under the root of the tail to reach the vitals, or sometimes all you can see of the bull is the front point of a shoulder. Carrying a 7-08, 6.5 Creed, 243, or a 22-250, I would pass on those questionable shots, and go home with a blank tag. I guess I agree. I’m surprised no one recommended a 223 with fast twist and a 75 grain bullet at 2700 fps. Elk are easy to kill, or so I learned on the campfire, but as long as they are on their feet, I keep feeding them 180 grains of failure until they walk no more… Based on the size of that bull, a .223 would have been more than adequate. Congratulations! You don't know the difference between a bull and bull$hit. You have an abundance of the latter.
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Based on the size of that bull, a .223 would have been more than adequate.
Congratulations! Prepping for the 37 pic drop of Master Hunter Buzzy's monster bulls[while hunting on our dime]. Congrats Shrap
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Hey now, nice bull. You have yourself some great table fare.
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300 yards for me, situation right and stay off the big bones. Been done. Lungs are lungs. Animals don’t go far with those punched thru. Not my first choice in caliber however.
Osky Thank You for that info. Most guys that I know from PA that go out west for elk, always take a magnum of 7mm or larger. If traveling a good distance, spending good $$ and on limited time it is probably best to take more power than needed. The cost for me to go elk hunting: gas to drive 60 miles each way, and the price of an in state elk tag. I would take nothing less powerful than a 30-06/7 mag for elk. Our typical shot is 300 to 400 yds, and power is significantly diminished at that range. Couple that with the fact that you often do not get that perfect butcher's shot at the lungs. My 7 STW w/ 162 gr Hornady leaves the muzzle at 3200 fps. According to the book, it was down to 2470 fps when it hit each of my last two bulls. Sometimes you have to start just under the root of the tail to reach the vitals, or sometimes all you can see of the bull is the front point of a shoulder. Carrying a 7-08, 6.5 Creed, 243, or a 22-250, I would pass on those questionable shots, and go home with a blank tag. I guess I agree. I’m surprised no one recommended a 223 with fast twist and a 75 grain bullet at 2700 fps. Elk are easy to kill, or so I learned on the campfire, but as long as they are on their feet, I keep feeding them 180 grains of failure until they walk no more… Based on the size of that bull, a .223 would have been more than adequate. Congratulations! You don't know the difference between a bull and bull$hit. You have an abundance of the latter. I know enough to help one of my best friends a few days ago stalk this bull to 5, yes 5 yards and kill it with a .270 and nosler partitions. I bet a .22 would have done the job.
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Based on the size of that bull, a .223 would have been more than adequate.
Congratulations! Prepping for the 37 pic drop of Master Hunter Buzzy's monster bulls[while hunting on our dime]. Congrats Shrap I could post 83 pics of the ones I've killed, probably more than that I've helped friends and family with.
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Buzzie pissed because Shrap doesn't have to suck dicks to get hunting access or have access shut down.
I am MAGA.
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Congratulations, Shrap. Love your choice of caliber, too.
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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I shot this elk with a 300 Weatherby and 180 grain Nosler Ballistic Tips. I was really fortunate to actually kill something with so little going for it, but I do like a challenge… Did it "pencil on through...?" There's no denying the BC sucks for that bullet.
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Buzzie pissed because Shrap doesn't have to suck dicks to get hunting access or have access shut down. I had written permission from Tracy Stone Manning for me and my buddy. Along with 340 million of my best friends.
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Last thing I killed was with some 180 accubond 3rds that I have a pile of. (black with red tip) Guessing that 180 ballistic tip is similar.
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My 7 STW w/ 162 gr Hornady leaves the muzzle at 3200 fps. According to the book, it was down to 2470 fps when it hit each of my last two bulls.
Sometimes you have to start just under the root of the tail to reach the vitals, or sometimes all you can see of the bull is the front point of a shoulder.
Carrying a 7-08, 6.5 Creed, 243, or a 22-250, I would pass on those questionable shots, and go home with a blank tag. I guess I agree. I’m surprised no one recommended a 223 with fast twist and a 75 grain bullet at 2700 fps. Elk are easy to kill, or so I learned on the campfire, but as long as they are on their feet, I keep feeding them 180 grains of failure until they walk no more…In my case, 162 gr, but yes. Just as fast as I can reload the #1. When I was about eight years old, I was sitting on a little barren knob with younger sister and brother, waiting on Mom and Dad to make a circle and come back to us. I heard a shot in the distance, then a few minutes later Dad came past and picked me up to follow him on his horse as he tracked a lung shot cow. 30-06, 180 gr Win silvertips, Rem 760. There were puddles of pink foam in the trail every few yards, occasionally a big puddle where she had hesitated for a few moments. But after a few hundred yards, those puddles became drops. Then the drops got further apart, until they stopped entirely. Apparently a high lung shot. The area was very dry and elk tracks were all over the hillsides. It was impossible to discern where this cow had gone among all those tracks. We searched for a long time to no avail. That is the day I learned, the recipe for elk is keep adding lead until four feet point to the sky. A "dead" elk can go a damned long way in a hurry. Especially when he is headed downhill into a schithole which will make extraction much more difficult. Or in some cases, across a fence onto private land.
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