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GFY, Biden Shill. I've killed more chit than you have ever even seen. With the above mentioned projectiles... Dumbass. So, tell me where you full of chit when you claimed the BT was "always a hunting bullet" or just forget to drink your ensure? Go clear some brush. Talking bullets of the nosler variety is over your pointed head, by a landslide. If someone were to examine the whole of your contributions here, would they find you to be a helpful member of the community? A productive member of the community? A friendly member of the community? Or would they find you to be angry and uncomfortable in your own skin?
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When I'm loading if the MV is 3000fps or less I use Nosler BT if the MV is over 3000fps I use Nosler Accubonds. It has worked out well for me over the years. The only bullet I refuse to use for anything bigger that coyotes is the Sierra hunting bullets. They just seem too soft and I have seen multiple complete failures on deer. I actually shot a deer below me at about 30 yards with one in 270Win. hitting it in the back down between the shoulder blades. The bullet made a hole about the size of my fist but didn't hold together long enough to enter its chest cavity. Luckily it affected its spine and I got to finish it off with a second shot. Down through the shoulders at 30 yards is asking a lot of most any cup n core bullets. A lot of bone to break through.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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I think Nosler increased the jacket thickness for that bullet several years ago!
Good job and good eating! There has been absolutely NO information released on that subject. You must have Insider information. At some point, someone at Nosler had an epiphany and combined a polycarbonate tip with the Solid Base bullet and the Ballistic Tip bullet was born. Since the plastic tip can be any color, Noser assigned different color tips to different calibers. The Ballistic Tip is very accurate, has a high BC and expands rapidly, maximizing the shock to the animal's system. Early examples perhaps expanded too violently, killing light framed animals very quickly with heart/lung shots, but penetration on larger game was sometimes found lacking. Nosler increased the jacket thickness and refined the bullet's performance, increasing penetration. Today, the Ballistic Tip is one of the most versatile and popular premium bullets on the market and it has sparked a "tipped bullet" revolution. Practically every major bullet and ammunition manufacturer has introduced a tipped bullet to compete with the Ballistic Tip. I don't remember them changing the BT bullet... But I may be wrong. What most people don't realize is that the larger the caliber, and heavier the BT bullet, the thicker the jacket. It's always been that way. Frankly I started using BT's out of a .223 hunting coyotes. And again, frankly, the jacket was too thick out of a .223 55gr... It would blow through a coyote and leave a quarter sized exit. Had lots of runners, shot behind or through the shoulders. Then the V-Max came out. Thinner jacket. Much more explosive expansion, and a runner was rare. Usually no exit with a V-Max either. Now you take that same BT 55gr bullet and push it out of a 22-250, you get different results. Lots of variables in play. But a BT has never been a "varmint bullet". It's been a hunting bullet. Enter the Nosler Varmageddon if you want V-Max type explosiveness.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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GFY, Biden Shill. I've killed more chit than you have ever even seen. With the above mentioned projectiles... Dumbass. So, tell me where you full of chit when you claimed the BT was "always a hunting bullet" or just forget to drink your ensure? Go clear some brush. Talking bullets of the nosler variety is over your pointed head, by a landslide. If someone were to examine the whole of your contributions here, would they find you to be a helpful member of the community? A productive member of the community? A friendly member of the community? Or would they find you to be angry and uncomfortable in your own skin? You contribute anything about hunting? You're a poser, go back to your bike and spandex forum. Oh, and nice catch taking down the post on this thread after realizing you forgot to read before you typed.
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That 220 grain 30 cal looks interesting.
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When I'm loading if the MV is 3000fps or less I use Nosler BT if the MV is over 3000fps I use Nosler Accubonds. It has worked out well for me over the years. The only bullet I refuse to use for anything bigger that coyotes is the Sierra hunting bullets. They just seem too soft and I have seen multiple complete failures on deer. I actually shot a deer below me at about 30 yards with one in 270Win. hitting it in the back down between the shoulder blades. The bullet made a hole about the size of my fist but didn't hold together long enough to enter its chest cavity. Luckily it affected its spine and I got to finish it off with a second shot. Down through the shoulders at 30 yards is asking a lot of most any cup n core bullets. A lot of bone to break through. I generally punch shoulders with an AMAX at 30-200 yard ranges from a 7/08. WT not elk. You don't get the big holes but I've never found the bullet and the heart/lungs tend to be goo. Of the last 10 or so shot, tracking distance is about 20 feet for all combined. They just wobble and fall over.
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Maybe my sense of humor is too dry at times?
I am MAGA.
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You contribute anything about hunting? You're a poser, go back to your bike and spandex forum. LOL. Still a dumbass. Maybe you can get your boyfriend to read this history of the BT for you, and then point out where I was wrong about anything I said? https://www.americanhunter.org/content/bullet-bio-nosler-ballistic-tip/Your problem is you run your mouth about things you don't have a clue about. It's what you do. Well, besides vote for every democrat on the ballot... LOL.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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You contribute anything about hunting? You're a poser, go back to your bike and spandex forum. LOL. Still a dumbass. Maybe you can get your boyfriend to read this history of the BT for you, and then point out where I was wrong about anything I said? https://www.americanhunter.org/content/bullet-bio-nosler-ballistic-tip/Your problem is you run your mouth about things you don't have a clue about. It's what you do. Well, besides vote for every democrat on the ballot... LOL. Did nosler mis-label their own bullets, on their own website? What a clown. Has the varmint ballistic tip always been a hunting bullet? Change your depends, the ones you're wearing are full. Oh, and you are the exact guy that article was written for, read it again, report back your "findings". Laffin'
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Maybe my sense of humor is too dry at times? I got you cuzzin '.
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I am MAGA.
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You contribute anything about hunting? You're a poser, go back to your bike and spandex forum.
Oh, and nice catch taking down the post on this thread after realizing you forgot to read before you typed. Nice dodge, bitter little fat boy.
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You contribute anything about hunting? You're a poser, go back to your bike and spandex forum. LOL. Still a dumbass. Maybe you can get your boyfriend to read this history of the BT for you, and then point out where I was wrong about anything I said? https://www.americanhunter.org/content/bullet-bio-nosler-ballistic-tip/Your problem is you run your mouth about things you don't have a clue about. It's what you do. Well, besides vote for every democrat on the ballot... LOL. Did nosler mis-label their own bullets, on their own website? What a clown. Has the varmint ballistic tip always been a hunting bullet? Change your depends, the ones you're wearing are full. Oh, and you are the exact guy that article was written for, read it again, report back your "findings". Laffin' Hey, Dumbfugk, They didn't create the "Varmint" line until many, many years of the original debut of the BT. God damn you ARE one dense MF'r. Always a clown, and entertaining though.... If only you weren't so sickening.  I bet you are the most hated SOB on this site. But yet you come back back for more and more.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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You contribute anything about hunting? You're a poser, go back to your bike and spandex forum. LOL. Still a dumbass. Maybe you can get your boyfriend to read this history of the BT for you, and then point out where I was wrong about anything I said? https://www.americanhunter.org/content/bullet-bio-nosler-ballistic-tip/Your problem is you run your mouth about things you don't have a clue about. It's what you do. Well, besides vote for every democrat on the ballot... LOL. Did nosler mis-label their own bullets, on their own website? What a clown. Has the varmint ballistic tip always been a hunting bullet? Change your depends, the ones you're wearing are full. Oh, and you are the exact guy that article was written for, read it again, report back your "findings". Laffin' Hey, Dumbfugk, They didn't create the "Varmint" line until many, many years of the original debut of the BT. God damn you ARE one dense MF'r. Always a clown, and entertaining though.... If only you weren't so sickening. I bet you are the most hated SOB on this site. But yet you come back back for more and more. Was trying to figure this out. Within 10-12 years for sure.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
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Years ago a guy here on the ‘fire posted a bullet torture test he performed using a variety of bullets shot through meat, then into the shoulder knuckle of a moo cow. He got the bones from a butcher. The data he collected included penetration depth, bullet retained weight as a percentage of original weight, and expansion as a percentage of original diameter.
IIRC, the .308 cal 168 (maybe 180?) BT performed shockingly well.
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Maybe my sense of humor is too dry at times? I got you cuzzin '. Thanks cuzzin! Now....who is this "Mule Deer" character?
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Yep, they introduced the varmint line in 1991, eight years after the hunting line. I know this because they sent me some that spring, a couple months after their announcement at the SHOT Show in January.
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Maybe my sense of humor is too dry at times? I got you cuzzin '. Thanks cuzzin! Now.... who is this "Mule Deer" character?Meet "Mule Deer" from what I understand he is quite the character. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Iajvgbw.jpg)
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You contribute anything about hunting? You're a poser, go back to your bike and spandex forum. LOL. Still a dumbass. Maybe you can get your boyfriend to read this history of the BT for you, and then point out where I was wrong about anything I said? https://www.americanhunter.org/content/bullet-bio-nosler-ballistic-tip/Your problem is you run your mouth about things you don't have a clue about. It's what you do. Well, besides vote for every democrat on the ballot... LOL. Did nosler mis-label their own bullets, on their own website? What a clown. Has the varmint ballistic tip always been a hunting bullet? Change your depends, the ones you're wearing are full. Oh, and you are the exact guy that article was written for, read it again, report back your "findings". Laffin' Hey, Dumbfugk, They didn't create the "Varmint" line until many, many years of the original debut of the BT. God damn you ARE one dense MF'r. Always a clown, and entertaining though.... If only you weren't so sickening. I bet you are the most hated SOB on this site. But yet you come back back for more and more. 8 years is "many, many"? About the same number of firing brain cells you have left.
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Did the cow [bleep] again?
Look at what just Buzzed in.
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