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8 years is "many, many"? About the same number of firing brain cells you have left. When you are backed into a corner, become a tedious bore who wants to engage in semantic masturbation.
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8 years is "many, many"? About the same number of firing brain cells you have left. When you are backed into a corner, become a tedious bore who wants to engage in semantic masturbation. LOL. He gets his ass handed to him every time he comes here spouting his retard stuff. But he comes back for more and more.
Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla!
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Life Member SCI
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Take your responsibilities seriously, never yourself-Ken Howell
Proper bullet placement + sufficient penetration = quick, clean kill. Finn Aagard
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Maybe my sense of humor is too dry at times? I got you cuzzin '. Thanks cuzzin! Now....who is this "Mule Deer" character? I'm sure you'll figure it out..tongue firmly in cheek..
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Maybe my sense of humor is too dry at times? I got you cuzzin '. Thanks cuzzin! Now....who is this "Mule Deer" character? That isn’t dry humor, that’s “drought” humor…
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Shrapnel,
Is that a JetStream Lite you are wearing? That's my favorite piece of all. I had to buy my wife one also, as I always caught her wearing mine. I wish they still made them. I’m no t sure what it’s called, but it is Gore tex windproof top, exceptional lightweight jacket…
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Campfire Ranger
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How many of us remember shooting and hunting with the "Solid Base"? Before it gained the poly-carbonate tip?
At that time I was regularly burning a couple hundred 30-06 rounds a day, every other week end during the season shooting whistle pigs on the BLM ground surrounding our farm. I used 165 gr boat tail bullets from Speer, Sierra, and the Nosler solid base.
The problem came with repeated "tactical reloads". Sometimes the round in the bottom of the mag would be subjected to 10 or 12 recoil impulses before it made its way to the top of the mag. The SP tip would turn into a mushroom, smashed back to the jacket.
The Sierra 165 gr HPBT was the only bullet I found which resisted this deformation. Until Nosler gave us the ballistic tip. It was the answer to my prayers. And damned if it was not a very accurate and effective killer of mule deer as well. It soon became the only bullet I loaded for the '06. Though, in 1994, I did find it a bit too frangible for my taste on elk.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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OK shrapnel.
You owe us the technical's. Range, where did the bullet hit, did it exit, etc. Who the fugk do you think you are demanding anything of substance from another member? Piss back of to your quest for news that the sky is falling. Paul is throwing another tantrum because he isn't the center of attention. Narcissists do that. He is working with a wet tampon.
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I think Nosler increased the jacket thickness for that bullet several years ago!
Good job and good eating! There has been absolutely NO information released on that subject. You must have Insider information. At some point, someone at Nosler had an epiphany and combined a polycarbonate tip with the Solid Base bullet and the Ballistic Tip bullet was born. Since the plastic tip can be any color, Noser assigned different color tips to different calibers. The Ballistic Tip is very accurate, has a high BC and expands rapidly, maximizing the shock to the animal's system. Early examples perhaps expanded too violently, killing light framed animals very quickly with heart/lung shots, but penetration on larger game was sometimes found lacking. Nosler increased the jacket thickness and refined the bullet's performance, increasing penetration. Today, the Ballistic Tip is one of the most versatile and popular premium bullets on the market and it has sparked a "tipped bullet" revolution. Practically every major bullet and ammunition manufacturer has introduced a tipped bullet to compete with the Ballistic Tip. I don't remember them changing the BT bullet... But I may be wrong. What most people don't realize is that the larger the caliber, and heavier the BT bullet, the thicker the jacket. It's always been that way. Frankly I started using BT's out of a .223 hunting coyotes. And again, frankly, the jacket was too thick out of a .223 55gr... It would blow through a coyote and leave a quarter sized exit. Had lots of runners, shot behind or through the shoulders. Then the V-Max came out. Thinner jacket. Much more explosive expansion, and a runner was rare. Usually no exit with a V-Max either. Now you take that same BT 55gr bullet and push it out of a 22-250, you get different results. Lots of variables in play. But a BT has never been a "varmint bullet". It's been a hunting bullet. Enter the Nosler Varmageddon if you want V-Max type explosiveness. What enhanced the thicker jackets was that on a few occasions some bullets were losing their structural integrity due to faster muzzle velocities and faster ROT and were exploding before reaching the target!
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Even birds know not to land downwind!
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I will wait for Mule Deer's confirmation on that theory.
The only bullet I have ever managed to destruct in mid air due to rotational velocity was the Speer 308 110 gr Varminter. I was driving it from a 30-06 with a full charge of 3031.
And it was making six to ten holes in a target at 25 yds.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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I will wait for Mule Deer's confirmation on that theory.
The only bullet I have ever managed to destruct in mid air due to rotational velocity was the Speer 308 110 gr Varminter. I was driving it from a 30-06 with a full charge of 3031.
And it was making six to ten holes in a target at 25 yds. I did the same with that bullet, the one with the big hollow point designed for the 30 carbine. I also had some Sierra 110 RN's come apart playing with top speeds out of a 30-06. The old Plinker was a more solid bullet than either of those two.
Dog I rescued in January
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Campfire Tracker
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How many of us remember shooting and hunting with the "Solid Base"? Before it gained the poly-carbonate tip?. Only shot thousands of them. Still have a stash and still use them. Even though it's tough to do for those that know, ignore the net all time B&C pronghorn. ![[Linked Image from photos.imageevent.com]](https://photos.imageevent.com/buzzandpat/hunting/websize/0813162011.jpg)
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Campfire Kahuna
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Hahahaha!
Oh sweetie.
You try too hard.
I am MAGA.
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Nosler made a limited run of the lead tipped solid base around 2006ish (the ones in the photo in the plain boxes).
Should have bought a few thousand more than I did.
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Pard envy.... 
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Hahahaha!
Oh sweetie.
You try too hard. Just take out the notepad and pen, school is in session. First time you've ever seen a box of solid base bullets.
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Hahahaha!
Oh sweetie.
You try too hard. Just take out the notepad and pen, school is in session. First time you've ever seen a box of solid base bullets. What ever you have to tell yourself. Keep sucking those cocks buzzie.
I am MAGA.
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Hahahaha!
Oh sweetie.
You try too hard. Just take out the notepad and pen, school is in session. First time you've ever seen a box of solid base bullets. What ever you have to tell yourself. Keep sucking those cocks buzzie. Have another swig. Do you need a loan for a stove/oven?
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Nosler solid base was the predecessor to the ballistic tip.... they improved them
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Hahahaha!
Oh sweetie.
You try too hard. Just take out the notepad and pen, school is in session. First time you've ever seen a box of solid base bullets. What ever you have to tell yourself. Keep sucking those cocks buzzie. Have another swig. Do you need a loan for a stove/oven? Gobble Gobble buzzie!
I am MAGA.
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