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I'm trying to decide between the .25-06 and the .270 Win for my next deer rifle (likely a Browning BAR Safari). While the .270 isn't really a hard kicker, the older i get the less I like recoil. Will there be any real-world difference in felt recoil between the two? I can read all sorts of shizzle on the internet, but some experience of knowledgeable people will be helpful.
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Neither will hang with a 264 Kreed. Hint.............
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If you don’t reload, I’d go 270. BAR’s are soft shooting, taint gonna be much difference in recoil.
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When comparing the two in the same rifle, a 700 with 24 inch sporter weight barrel, I feel like the 25-06 has noticeably less recoil with factory 100gr loads vs 130gr 270 loads.
I guess I would pick based on my needs. For me, in the northwest, the 270 makes more sense because of elk and the shorter range shots in the timbered areas I hunt. It will push 150gr bullets as fast as a 25-06 pushes 120gr bullets.
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Gooch, I’d agree. In the mountainous part of WV our deer are small bodied. I’m going to 25s now. I have an excellent lightweight ‘06 that I zeroed yesterday and may not hunt with at all. I was surprised at the difference in recoil after the last 2 range sessions with the 25-06 and 257 Roberts. The 270 is right in between and it’s fairly snappy. Seems it would depend on where and what the OP is hunting. Shooting 130s in a BAR wouldn’t be bruising. (I may have to load some reasonable 150s for the ‘06. I do love that rifle.)
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Stick, are you a fan of the 6.5 Creed? Haven’t tried the cartridge but assume it’s close to the 6.5x55 for which I have a fondness.
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I'm a fan of GOOD bullets,which is the whole Kreed Koncept. If you don't reload,it gets REAL fhuqking ugly for the 25-06 and 270. Hint..................
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Gooch, I’d agree. In the mountainous part of WV our deer are small bodied. I’m going to 25s now. I have an excellent lightweight ‘06 that I zeroed yesterday and may not hunt with at all. I was surprised at the difference in recoil after the last 2 range sessions with the 25-06 and 257 Roberts. The 270 is right in between and it’s fairly snappy. Seems it would depend on where and what the OP is hunting. Shooting 130s in a BAR wouldn’t be bruising. Are you saying that your .257 Roberts has significantly more recoil than the .25-06? And the .257 even more than the .270? FWIW, I will be hunting mostly eastern NC whitetails where a 200 lb deer is a BIG one.
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Understand. With the 25-06 came 6 or 8 boxes of ammunition and I’m trying to use that first - Rem 100gr, Hornady Super Perf 117, etc.. What do you recommend for a good bullet over 4831 or 4350?
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I do not shoot a BAR but have both a 25-06 and 270 in Remington 700 BDLs. The recoil difference is substantial between the two to me. The 25-06 kicks far less... Now I am shoot 100 gr in the 25-06 and 140 in the 270 FWIW
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Noooo! They’re both very modest in the recoil department. Very. 270 is between the 25s and the ‘06.
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The 250 Savage can't begin to keep pace with the 6 ARC. Hint..............
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For EVERY action,there is a reaction. Recoil is thusly,due projectile weight and in ascending order...25-06,270 and 30-06. Obviously speaking in terms of like rifles. Hint...............
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The 250 Savage can't begin to keep pace with the 6 ARC. Hint.............. It’s why I’ve gotten out of the .257 game other than my M70 FWT in 257 Roberts. For that matter, I’m out of the .277 game as well. It’s easier to do more with various 6 and 7mm components. Someone could easily split the difference and not need another bore diameter.
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Either one will be fine for what you need. Plenty of good ammo and good component bullets for each.
Apparently reading comprehension is a lost art, cause some sure don't have it. Hint.
You obviously are interested in one rifle that is available in limited chamberings.
Use a good bullet, and the 25-06 will put venison on your table faithfully, and you can also use it for predator/varmints.
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Either one will be fine for what you need. Plenty of good ammo and good component bullets for each.
Apparently reading comprehension is a lost art, cause some sure don't have it. Hint.
You obviously are interested in one rifle that is available in limited chamberings.
Use a good bullet, and the 25-06 will put venison on your table faithfully, and you can also use it for predator/varmints. Exactly, sir - and thanks for noticing. The BAR Safari is currently offered in 25-06, 270, 308, and 30-06. I'm interested in the 25-06 or the 270 and recoil is an important consideration. Clamberings like the 6mm ARC are cute and all, but aren't what I'm asking about. Hint
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My 25-06 is my go-to woodchuck rifle. It's a Ruger M77 with a custom stock and a Montana barrel.
IMR4831 behind 90 gr Blitzking are easily 1/2 MOA. I've had quite a few kills in the 5-600 yd range. Recoil is barely noticeably more than my 243.
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I've always thought 25-06 was a cool cartridge. If you're loading your own ammo, that's my vote.
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The BAR Safari hasn't ANYTHING "redeeming" in it's regards mechanically,especially in the chamberings cited. I is rather easy,to drop case capacity,ride a GOOD bullet and slap the 25-06 and 270 silly,with much in the way of reduced recoil. Hint.
Now as the .257" 90gr BK goes,it is a whopping pile of fhuqking schit and can't begin to muster a .400 BC. A Speedmire with 88's slaps THE fhuqk out of it,starting at the muzzle and wayyyyyy beyond the 600yd line. Hint.
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Either one will be fine for what you need. Plenty of good ammo and good component bullets for each.
Apparently reading comprehension is a lost art, cause some sure don't have it. Hint.
You obviously are interested in one rifle that is available in limited chamberings.
Use a good bullet, and the 25-06 will put venison on your table faithfully, and you can also use it for predator/varmints. Exactly, sir - and thanks for noticing. The BAR Safari is currently offered in 25-06, 270, 308, and 30-06. I'm interested in the 25-06 or the 270 and recoil is an important consideration. Clamberings like the 6mm ARC are cute and all, but aren't what I'm asking about. Hint Another option is a previous version (or discontinued chambering) in the same rifle in 243 Winchester. Again, a multiple purpose chambering with no recoil concerns but a heavy hitter with the right bullets. Much more to a good HUNTING bullet than just looking at inflated BC numbers
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