Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles Seeking advice on a lightweight complete upper

I'm looking to purchase a complete 5.56 lightweight upper. It will mostly be used as a walking around, relatively short range (less than 200 yds) coyote rifle. I want a 16" barrel with a mid length gas system and a twist rate of 1-7 or 8. The lower will be a RRA LAR 15. It will be scoped with a 2-7 scope or something similar, again lightweight. Budget is less than a $1000. Any suggestions would appreciated.

Have a look at Rock River’s Mountain Rifle upper.

The above is what you ask for,
for 1/2 of a RRA upper

PSA pencil if you don't mind slumming. Gonna be a complete POS that can't shoot well enough for 200 yard coyotes.


https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...ightweight-m-lok-upper-w-bcg-and-ch.html

If this didn't satisfy you, you could swap barrels and still not be hurt too bad.

I’ll probably get flamed for this, but I bought one of those Bushmaster pencil barrel uppers that CDNN advertises for $179. Put it on a Rock River lower and added a basic BCG and a Leupold 2.75 scope in an Aero mount. It’s light and handy, seems reliable, and shoots well enough for walking around purposes.

Why would a pencil barrel be inaccurate? Do you know? Could you know?
You're just regurgitating some horse crap you read from some other "expert".

I have pencil barrels from Colt and Sionics and I have had one from Bushmaster. They all have made great coyote guns.

Had a couple pencil barrels.. I’d consider any barrel that’s 16” 23oz or less to be pencil profile

The bcm shoots okay.. plenty of 1” 5 shot groups.. but in all honesty it’s 2moa 10 shot.

The faxon was borderline atrocious. It’s a rainy rainy rainy day barrel.

Bushmaster 1-9 pencil upper was pretty bad as well.

Colt 1-12” A1 20” shoots medium. It’s not free gloated so not a fair comparison and it only sees 55gr fmj


That said all kinda suck when ur under stress. Even with an SSa-e I’m shooting measurably worse then say a 28oz contoured correctly stick such as a criterion core or geissele.My .02.

I want 18",Rifle Gas,1-7" and NO bullschit. Hint..............

Climb down from your perch All Knowing Holy One!
Read the fugging text and try comprehension.

I recommended the damn thing, and commented that a gun would have to be a POS to not meet the OPs needs.
Meaning that these would likely be more than adequate? That, despite being low end, they would perform well for the intended task without costing much?



Whew. About the 5th version.
This trying to be nice thing is tough!

"PSA pencil if you don't mind slumming. Gonna be a complete POS that can't shoot well enough for 200 yard coyotes."

Words mean things and I took it as you said it was gonna be a complete POS that can't shoot well enough for 200 yard coyotes too.

Spend a few seconds proof reading before you press "post reply"

I was going to mention the PSA pencil-dick uppers, but it looks like they are already well covered.......grin

I bought another 16" DelTon 1/9 twist light weight barrel 3 weeks ago. I got the chromed version this time. I had 2 of the non chromed barrels and they got accurate very quickly. This chrome one is not where I want it yet but it's completely adequate and improving every day. I sold one of my non chromed uppers a couple of months ago and I kept a 16" light weight carbine. I sold a 16" mid length with the A2 front tower and bought a 16" mid length without the front tower. I used pieces and parts that I had in boxes and drawers to complete the rifle. It's a real franken gun.

I know that DelTon has had some issues (claimed issues) in the past but I have yet to get a bad one. If 50 to 62 grain bullets are what you are looking to shoot and you want a light weight upper, stop by the DelTon web site and see what they have. If you sign up for notifications they have some really good special prices on their uppers. The only downside is DelTon does not offer an 18" barrel.
kwg
The barrel I bought.
https://www.del-ton.com/AR-15-16-Mid-Length-LW-Barrel-p/bl1088f-bo.htm

https://www.del-ton.com/

Red all over my stupid face!

Gotta find a better crow recipe.

My sincere apologies dla.

Let he who has not done the same cast the first stone…

Apologies accepted. Issue forgotten.

I like lightweight.

You will be able get to the to the lightest by building yourself as you can mix & match lightweight components, like an upper receiver w/o a forward assist which you likely will not find in a complete upper or a very light weight, shorter handguard.

And you can use an AGB which will, in turn, allow use of a reduced weight BCG & buffer; again, that's hard to find on a built upper.

Or go to BCM's or (for mo' money), V-Seven's website & build your own with the selected barrel & handguard of your choice.

BCM won't be the lightest possible, but you can get reasonably light, & good quality for a reasonable price.

MM

This.

It's actually pretty easy to get down into six pound territory if you just build one. All it takes is money 😄

I just got another aero m4e1 with a 16" mid length pencil barrel and an s-one handguard. I haven't had it out yet but my old 16" pencil bhw has shot many 1/2 moa groups with Hornady 75g bthps so some pencil barrels can shoot. My main shooter rifles are 18" rifle with a bit heavier barrels but my trunk guns are 16" pencil mid gassers. I won't got rifle on a 16" because i want reliability with those ones. Rifle gas makes a good soft shooting 18 or 20.

The ballistic advantage Hansen profile is a nice lighter weight profile and comes with a pinned gas block. Quality can be hit or miss but they seem willing to make it right. I'm running an 18" Hanson on my aero m5 Creedmoor.

Bb