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Funny Hornady specifically says on thier website video that the cannelure is ONLY for crimping not locking the core to the jacket. Guess you forgot about the interlock and a harder alloy, not the cannelure, which supports the core farther down.

They can say what they want.

The fact is once they knurl the jacket it still pushes some of the jacket into the core. Doesn't mean that it's to lock them together, the interlock ring is supposed to do that.

and a harder core base AND … INTERLOCK BAND has nothing to do with it. So how did does thier line WITHOUT a cannelure LOCK ? but Good to know you’re convinced it helps.

Bonding.

Before that.. better yet any bullet without a cannelure. Speer Sierra etc. What locks Noslers or Remington CL ? You can’t and won’t convince me that it’s a major contributor to locking the bullet. The reason l say that is because you aren’t commenting on the other ways it locks. BTW that mushroom looks like it’s BELOW the cannelure. And to honest, and l hope you believe me, l recovered bullets with cannelures and seen the jack split past it.

Sierra controls expansion with core hardness and jacket thickness, nothing to lock the 2 together.

Same with boat tail Speers. Flatbase Speers are Hotcore bullets.

Ballistic Tips use jacket thickness.

Hornady without a crimp groove has no way of locking, just jacket thickness and core hardness to help control expansion. Hornady with a cannelure in .24 caliber and up has the Interlock ring.


Must be something to the cannelure helping some as most guys using the .224 55 grain bullet for big game always use the 55 that has a groove, not the smooth sided bullet.

Other than that none of the make a claim of anything that "locks" the 2 together.

Corelokt bullets use an hourglass shaped jacket.

I believe you, its a bullet and they do funny things sometimes.

I have also seen interlock bullets slip the interlock ring as well.

Sure, that mushroom is below the cannelure, just because the cannelure is there it doesn't mean that expansion will stop at it.

Never said it was the sole means of core retention but it damn sure cannot hurt.

What precisely do you mean by harder core base?

I’ll give you the jacket, and the core and l never said it locks the two together did l ?

He has NO idea WTF he is talking about, just spewing crap, like the private message he sent me

Email Sierra and ask them

I will call em tomorrow
Core and jacket from what?

Never said you said it did. Said Hornady claims it does.

First of all, I was referring to your comment in a post about the Interlock, a Hornady product.

Second, I don't believe Sierra has ever used differential hardness in their cores. Speer used to in the Grand Slam.

That's all one needs to know about this joker.

Tell that to Sierra and eat your words.

Sierra gets their lead in huge slugs and forces them through a die which forms the diameter of the slug, thinking it forms a lead wire if I remember correctly.

Pretty sure they would have to touch every single core in order to have a softer front end and a harder rear end.

Those Grand Slams supposedly poured molten lead in for the rear and may have had a lead wire pushed in before the lead was 100% cool then the jacket was probably drawn up around the core.

No need to call them, is there ?

That does not say they use more than one alloy in a single bullet.