Wheel weight are ~12 but what have are 15 so whoever or where ever you got that information “Mr l shoot a lot” go back and research it again. But on with the silver tips
Your googlefu, sucks.
Wheel weights will vary from 9 to 12 depending on what company made them, how fast a casting is cooled and with what, if they are heat treated, and if Sn is added for better flow. For all intents and purposes you should defer to assuming the lowest hardness and work from there.
A BHN of 12 is 94.5 % Pb, 3% Sn, and 2.5% Sb.....and is known as "Electrotype". As you would say, "Google it".
Again, since you didn't hear it the first time, whatever you have there is not significantly harder than pure lead.
Water quench 15 you friggin homo. Are you this persistent to peoples faces, or are you just a major coward?
Wheel weight are ~12 but what have are 15 so whoever or where ever you got that information “Mr l shoot a lot” go back and research it again. But on with the silver tips
Your googlefu, sucks.
Wheel weights will vary from 9 to 12 depending on what company made them, how fast a casting is cooled and with what, if they are heat treated, and if Sn is added for better flow. For all intents and purposes you should defer to assuming the lowest hardness and work from there.
A BHN of 12 is 94.5 % Pb, 3% Sn, and 2.5% Sb.....and is known as "Electrotype". As you would say, "Google it".
Again, since you didn't hear it the first time, whatever you have there is not significantly harder than pure lead.
Water quench 15 you friggin homo. Are you this persistent to peoples faces, or are you just a major coward?
Are you this persistent to peoples faces, or are you just a major coward?
The invite is never not open Skippy.
As my son would say, bring your pink slip and show me.
We'll even grill ya a steak and hand ya a beer afterwards per the etiquette of Appalachian hospitality, to sooth your fragile hurt feelings and calm your triggered irrational emotions.
I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children may live in peace. ~~ Thomas Paine
I think you need to pack it up and take a walk LMAO l wouldn’t waste my gas let alone my time with fathead like you. You probably couldn’t even see straight let alone walk straight.
Truth…If that’s true then why are you the one who always gets upset honey when people don’t agree with you ?! 🤣!
Let's recap:
You start a thread about a long defunct bullet that at best was a roll of the dice to begin with, and in this modern era, nobody even cares about. You make wild claims and pose like you know something. It's pointed out by several that you don't. You fire off an email question to a bullet maker that never made your long defunct bullet, floundering around for something, anything, to really show us up this time. You misinterpret the response that you get back as somehow supporting your wild claims, because deciphering the context of the written english language was never one of your grand superpowers. That misinterpretation is also pointed out to you by several. You're given a few real world facts, which you flippantly ignore because everyone on this site is just a stupid head. You then proceed to claim victimhood because everyone here is a big meanie too. 6 pages going on 7 later it still baffles you how you're getting treated. Ignorance can be cured by education, there is no cure for stupidity beyond Darwin's Theory of evolution.
I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children may live in peace. ~~ Thomas Paine
and a harder core base AND … INTERLOCK BAND has nothing to do with it. So how did does thier line WITHOUT a cannelure LOCK ? but Good to know you’re convinced it helps.
What precisely do you mean by harder core base?
Email Sierra and ask them
First of all, I was referring to your comment in a post about the Interlock, a Hornady product.
Second, I don't believe Sierra has ever used differential hardness in their cores. Speer used to in the Grand Slam.
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by anothergun
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by anothergun
and a harder core base AND … INTERLOCK BAND has nothing to do with it. So how did does thier line WITHOUT a cannelure LOCK ? but Good to know you’re convinced it helps.
What precisely do you mean by harder core base?
Email Sierra and ask them
First of all, I was referring to your comment in a post about the Interlock, a Hornady product.
Second, I don't believe Sierra has ever used differential hardness in their cores. Speer used to in the Grand Slam.
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We make the core of the bullet from four lead alloys: 6% antimony-4% tin, 6% antimony, 3% antimony, 1 1/2% antimony, and pure lead. For each bullet, we select the proper lead alloy for the best combination of accuracy and expansion in the finished projectile
No need to call them, is there ?
Like I said, no multiple core hardness within 1 core, front to back.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
Nosler ain't no better, they loose the front end, and people rave about the rear end driving through. The job is done by the time that happens, weather they're PT's, BT's. Speer HC either, or Sierra, any cup and core will do this. BUT they kill, so WHO CARES if the fall apart, by the time they do ladies, the job is done. You wanna belly ache about someting legit, belly ache about your ego's.... it gets you nowhere.
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by anothergun
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by anothergun
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by anothergun
and a harder core base AND … INTERLOCK BAND has nothing to do with it. So how did does thier line WITHOUT a cannelure LOCK ? but Good to know you’re convinced it helps.
What precisely do you mean by harder core base?
Email Sierra and ask them
First of all, I was referring to your comment in a post about the Interlock, a Hornady product.
Second, I don't believe Sierra has ever used differential hardness in their cores. Speer used to in the Grand Slam.
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by anothergun
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by anothergun
and a harder core base AND … INTERLOCK BAND has nothing to do with it. So how did does thier line WITHOUT a cannelure LOCK ? but Good to know you’re convinced it helps.
What precisely do you mean by harder core base?
Email Sierra and ask them
First of all, I was referring to your comment in a post about the Interlock, a Hornady product.
Second, I don't believe Sierra has ever used differential hardness in their cores. Speer used to in the Grand Slam.
Quote
We make the core of the bullet from four lead alloys: 6% antimony-4% tin, 6% antimony, 3% antimony, 1 1/2% antimony, and pure lead. For each bullet, we select the proper lead alloy for the best combination of accuracy and expansion in the finished projectile
No need to call them, is there ?
Like I said, no multiple core hardness within 1 core, front to back.
Years ago and I'm talking years, like 25 years..... An old timer from Sierra, told me about the shank being harder. Some things you don't forget. This Philip guy just started recently. I wish I knew the guy I talked to back then. Oh well, it is what it is. But at least you know that Sierra bullets are NOT pure lead.
Nosler ain't no better, they loose the front end, and people rave about the rear end driving through. The job is done by the time that happens, weather they're PT's, BT's. Speer HC either, or Sierra, any cup and core will do this. BUT they kill, so WHO CARES if the fall apart, by the time they do ladies, the job is done. You wanna belly ache about someting legit, belly ache about your ego's.... it gets you nowhere.
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by anothergun
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by anothergun
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by anothergun
and a harder core base AND … INTERLOCK BAND has nothing to do with it. So how did does thier line WITHOUT a cannelure LOCK ? but Good to know you’re convinced it helps.
What precisely do you mean by harder core base?
Email Sierra and ask them
First of all, I was referring to your comment in a post about the Interlock, a Hornady product.
Second, I don't believe Sierra has ever used differential hardness in their cores. Speer used to in the Grand Slam.
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by anothergun
Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by anothergun
and a harder core base AND … INTERLOCK BAND has nothing to do with it. So how did does thier line WITHOUT a cannelure LOCK ? but Good to know you’re convinced it helps.
What precisely do you mean by harder core base?
Email Sierra and ask them
First of all, I was referring to your comment in a post about the Interlock, a Hornady product.
Second, I don't believe Sierra has ever used differential hardness in their cores. Speer used to in the Grand Slam.
Quote
We make the core of the bullet from four lead alloys: 6% antimony-4% tin, 6% antimony, 3% antimony, 1 1/2% antimony, and pure lead. For each bullet, we select the proper lead alloy for the best combination of accuracy and expansion in the finished projectile
No need to call them, is there ?
Like I said, no multiple core hardness within 1 core, front to back.
Years ago and I'm talking years, like 25 years..... An old timer from Sierra, told me about the shank being harder. Some things you don't forget. This Philip guy just started recently. I wish I knew the guy I talked to back then. Oh well, it is what it is. But at least you know that Sierra bullets are NOT pure lead.
Never said they were.
The last time that bear ate a lawyer he had the runs for 33 days!
Is that where you are now ? Don’t get lost. I was warned to stay away from forums, this hobbie really is trial and error. Think l might do that.
Did you not give the impression you were leaving this forum many years ago?
Originally Posted by anothergun
Gee I guess If I'm all alone in my squabble, I must be wrong.
Happy hunting. Oh don't forget to debate about who has the right cartridge round yer fire.
Didn't really leave, just spent time on other sites, but they have moderators and I didn't last long. This hobbie like I said is trial and error, and after having debates about ANYTHING, I would walk away from my computor and figure out what others thought they knew and really couldn't see what I was doing to tell me how to figure it out. Don't get me wrong, there are a few things I picked up, but not much, to improve the game. The ones who give thier opinion and leave it at that make it enjoyable, but guys who contantly run thier mouth is the only thing they really know how to do. I pm advice, they take or not, and I LEAVE IT THERE, not get in hot pursuit with a flamming ego, like a group of homos here.
Like I said, no multiple core hardness within 1 core, front to back.
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Is it true that the base of your bullets are typically harder than the front end ? Pro hunters and GK's ?
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Philip Mahin 10:51 AM (1 hour ago) to me
I guess you can look at it that way, but the jacket thickness is the controlling factor. A tapered jacket will give a faster expansion at the nose and resist expansion at the base. We try to achieve the same goal through both of our Pro-Hunter and GameKing lineup, a projectile that mushrooms at the nose but still penetrates easily. Now I guess I break his balls POLITELY, considering that what he is to me, ladies, POLITE. I get along JUST FINE with POLITE people, unlike youse guys !
Philip Mahin
Ballistic Technician
Same guy saying two different things led me to talk to a MANAGER 25 years ago.
The jacket design is the main controlling factor like the techs in the Hornady video stated.
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