24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
-->
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,518
T
tdoyka Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
T
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,518
https://breakingdefense.com/2023/11...issile-a-first-for-joint-strike-fighter/

Israel uses F-35I to shoot down cruise missile, a first for Joint Strike Fighter
By SETH J. FRANTZMAN
on November 02, 2023 at 5:02 PM


JERUSALEM — The Israel Defense Forces said that it used F-35I Adir fighter jets to shoot down a cruise missile this week, the first known cruise missile intercept by the American-made stealth fighter.

“In recent days, a cruise missile launched from the southeast toward Israeli airspace was detected by the IAF’s control and detection systems. After tracking the cruise missile’s trajectory, Adir fighter jets were scrambled and successfully intercepted the missile,” the IDF said today, while releasing video of the incident.

The cruise missile was likely launched from the Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen, although the IDF did not specify the launch site. While Israeli did not specify what weapon was used to intercept the incoming cruise missile, Israel’s F-35I variants are armed with both the AIM-9X Sidewinder and Aim-120 AMRAAM missiles.

Israel’s F-35s were declared operational in 2017 and they were used in combat in 2018 for the first time. Israel signed a deal to buy an additional 25 of the aircraft in July. The country will eventually have 75 of the fifth-generation aircraft.

The IDF also hold the title of the first known kill by an F-35, when in March 2021 it shot down two drones it says were launched from Iran.

Since the Oct. 7 assault by Hamas that killed more than 1,400 people in Israel, the airborne threat from Yemen has been increasing. On Oct. 18, the Houthis in Yemen launched drones and cruise missiles toward Israel, with the Pentagon saying the USS Carney intercepted 15 drones and four cruise missiles over 9 hours. Another attack was launched on Oct. 27, but the projectiles landed in Egypt. And on Oct. 31 Israel used its Arrow system, which was jointly developed with the US, to intercept a ballistic missile from Yemen.

While this is the first time an F-35 is known to have killed a cruise missile, the capability has long been discussed.

The Trump administration’s Missile Defense Review, released January 2019, included language calling for the F-35 to be developed and armed for an ICBM intercept mission. And In 2019 The Jerusalem Post reported that “amid concerns that Iran may attack Israel with cruise missiles, a senior Lockheed Martin representative revealed on Tuesday that the stealth F-35 Adir fighter jet can detect and intercept such threats.” At the time Gary North, vice president for customer requirements and aeronautics at Lockheed, “told reporters that the AN/APG-81 AESA radar allows the advanced jet to identify and intercept airborne threats flying at a low altitude and at high speeds, like cruise missiles.”






"Russia sucks."
---- Me, US Army (retired) 12B & 51B

Russian Admiral said, after the Moskva sank, "we have the world's worst navy but we aren't as bad as our army".


Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 95,901
Likes: 15
J
Campfire Oracle
Online Content
Campfire Oracle
J
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 95,901
Likes: 15
So what 2 kinds of Navy jets shot down the rogue Sea Why Ayes incoming missile to Hawa...., uh, nevermind.


Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.

A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".

I Dindo Nuffin
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 19,044
Likes: 2
Campfire Ranger
Online Content
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 19,044
Likes: 2
this been verified by SupFool?


Dave

�The man who complains about the way the ball bounces is likely to be the one who dropped it.� Lou Holtz



Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 17,341
Likes: 24
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 17,341
Likes: 24
Where did Hamas get the cruise missile?


-OMotS



"If memory serves fails me..."
Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "

Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 46,745
T
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
T
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 46,745
Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
Where did Hamas get the cruise missile?


Biden


Camp is where you make it.
IC B2

Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,518
T
tdoyka Offline OP
Campfire Regular
OP Offline
Campfire Regular
T
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,518
The cruise missile was likely launched from the Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen, although the IDF did not specify the launch site.


"Russia sucks."
---- Me, US Army (retired) 12B & 51B

Russian Admiral said, after the Moskva sank, "we have the world's worst navy but we aren't as bad as our army".

Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,124
Likes: 7
S
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
S
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,124
Likes: 7
Originally Posted by tzone
Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
Where did Hamas get the cruise missile?


Biden



Whoomp, there it is!


"The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants".
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 24,305
Likes: 13
R
Campfire Ranger
Online Sleepy
Campfire Ranger
R
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 24,305
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by tdoyka
The cruise missile was likely launched from the Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen, although the IDF did not specify the launch site.


sure toooty

Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 7,327
Likes: 17
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 7,327
Likes: 17
BFD

The Brits took down V1's with their wingtips.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]

Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 17,341
Likes: 24
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 17,341
Likes: 24
So that is what a V-1 looks like... I thought that they were traditional missiles..


-OMotS



"If memory serves fails me..."
Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "

Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
IC B3

Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 7,327
Likes: 17
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 7,327
Likes: 17
Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
So that is what a V-1 looks like... I thought that they were traditional missiles..

You're thinking of the V2.

Joined: May 2017
Posts: 4,929
Likes: 3
W
WAM Offline
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
W
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 4,929
Likes: 3
Time to do a little Houthi-thinning…


Life Member NRA, RMEF, American Legion, MAGA. Not necessarily in that order.
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 17,341
Likes: 24
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2019
Posts: 17,341
Likes: 24
Originally Posted by SupFoo
Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
So that is what a V-1 looks like... I thought that they were traditional missiles..

You're thinking of the V2.

Dats right...
I an a bit hazy on my German Armament since I have had to start worrying about who has our stuff.


-OMotS



"If memory serves fails me..."
Quote: ( unnamed) "been prtty deep in the cooler todaay "

Television and radio are most effective when people question little and think even less.
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
Campfire Sage
Offline
Campfire Sage
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 115,424
Likes: 13
I am thrilled to hear our F-35 can shoot down our cruise missile.

LOL


Originally Posted by Geno67
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
Originally Posted by Judman
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
Originally Posted by KSMITH
My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 67,364
Likes: 52
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 67,364
Likes: 52
lmao

The B-52 “i’ve un-alived more people than cancer”

🤣🤣

Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 4,087
Likes: 6
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Sep 2021
Posts: 4,087
Likes: 6
A $82 million dollar jet with a $1.4 million dollar missile can do what a $60,000 Iron Dome missile can do.

Good to know.


Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 59,210
Likes: 34
Campfire Kahuna
Online Content
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 59,210
Likes: 34
Originally Posted by SupFoo
BFD

The Brits took down V1's with their wingtips.

[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]


That's an incredible picture.

I wonder if that's DD........


Paul

"I'd rather see a sermon than hear a sermon".... D.A.D.

Trump Won!, Sandmann Won!, Rittenhouse Won!, Suck it Liberal Fuuktards.

molɔ̀ːn labé skýla

Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 34,336
Likes: 10
S
Campfire 'Bwana
Online Content
Campfire 'Bwana
S
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 34,336
Likes: 10
Originally Posted by BigDave39355
this been verified by SupFoo?
Yes,

Thanks SupFoo


Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 31,288
Likes: 9
Campfire 'Bwana
Offline
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 31,288
Likes: 9
That Hurricane pilot is about to fook up. With his wingtip on top of the V-1s, he'll have to roll INTO the V-1 to get it to upset. To avoid a midair, you'd have to get your wingtip under the other one and then roll sharply AWAY.

Shooting down a cruise missile ought to be duck soup for an F-35. Straight and level, subsonic target with a bright IR signature. In fact, any fighter with an AIM-9 would find it as simple as look, lock, and launch.


Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.

Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 25,999
Likes: 10
I
Campfire Ranger
Online Happy
Campfire Ranger
I
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 25,999
Likes: 10
Thanks Rocky. That puts a different perspective on the photo.


People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 7,327
Likes: 17
Campfire Tracker
Offline
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 7,327
Likes: 17
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
That Hurricane pilot is about to fook up. With his wingtip on top of the V-1s, he'll have to roll INTO the V-1 to get it to upset. To avoid a midair, you'd have to get your wingtip under the other one and then roll sharply AWAY.

Not trying to flip it. Just trying to disrupt the airflow:

"The bumping action was a last resort. The idea was to get the wing of the plane as close to the missile as possible.”

“Some pilots would have touched the wing – the different air pressure at the tip of the aircraft would be enough to cause a disturbance in the aerodynamics around the wing which is then enough to knock it off course, disrupt the gyroscopes and then get the aircraft crash into the ground.

“That’s all it needed to do to disrupt the flightpath, just slightly, and either by physically hitting the wing, or actually it takes more skill, to put the wing so close that the vortexes at the wingtip disturb the air around the V1 wing itself, causing it to go off course.”


https://www.forces.net/heritage/wwii/how-spitfire-pilots-really-rammed-v1-bomb-out-sky

Last edited by SupFoo; 11/05/23.
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 10,172
Likes: 4
R
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
R
Joined: Feb 2018
Posts: 10,172
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by OldmanoftheSea
Where did Hamas get the cruise missile?
It said they thought it came from Yemen, so pick your Arab state.

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 15,783
Likes: 6
N
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
N
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 15,783
Likes: 6
The wingtip vortices are little tornadoes generated by the air trying to go over and around the wingtip. They’re very powerful on a commercial jet and the heavier the a/c the stronger they are. They’re easily strong enough to cause loss of control.

Moving just a little forward of the missile’s wingtip would put it in the vortex and lift it,upsetting the gyros.

The little vertical winglets on commercial jets help disrupt the those vortices which reduces the drag caused by the wing’s creation of lift, decreasing fuel consumption.

Last edited by navlav8r; 11/06/23.

NRA Life,Endowment,Patron or Benefactor since '72.
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,168
Likes: 16
Campfire Outfitter
Offline
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 12,168
Likes: 16
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
That Hurricane pilot is about to fook up. With his wingtip on top of the V-1s, he'll have to roll INTO the V-1 to get it to upset. To avoid a midair, you'd have to get your wingtip under the other one and then roll sharply AWAY.

Shooting down a cruise missile ought to be duck soup for an F-35. Straight and level, subsonic target with a bright IR signature. In fact, any fighter with an AIM-9 would find it as simple as look, lock, and launch.

I see other have addresseds the photo.

While it might be"duck soup" for the shootdown it was still the first time for an F-35, which was the point of the OP.

Why so negative about everything?


John Burns

I have all the sources.
They can't stop the signal.

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 24,305
Likes: 13
R
Campfire Ranger
Online Sleepy
Campfire Ranger
R
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 24,305
Likes: 13
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
That Hurricane pilot is about to fook up. With his wingtip on top of the V-1s, he'll have to roll INTO the V-1 to get it to upset. To avoid a midair, you'd have to get your wingtip under the other one and then roll sharply AWAY.

Shooting down a cruise missile ought to be duck soup for an F-35. Straight and level, subsonic target with a bright IR signature. In fact, any fighter with an AIM-9 would find it as simple as look, lock, and launch.

I see other have addresseds the photo.

While it might be"duck soup" for the shootdown it was still the first time for an F-35, which was the point of the OP.

Why so negative about everything?



you pumped gas in the Air Force. Now you're a military egg spurt? lol

Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 4,878
Likes: 6
W
Campfire Tracker
Online Content
Campfire Tracker
W
Joined: Apr 2019
Posts: 4,878
Likes: 6
Originally Posted by navlav8r
The wingtip vortices are little tornadoes generated by the air trying to go over and around the wingtip. They’re very powerful on a commercial jet and the heavier the a/c the stronger they are. They’re easily strong enough to cause loss of control.

Moving just a little forward of the missile’s wingtip would put it in the vortex and lift it,upsetting the gyros.

The little vertical winglets on commercial jets help disrupt the those vortices which reduces the drag caused by the wing’s creation of lift, decreasing fuel consumption.

Unclear on this. I thought V1’s (and any of that generations missiles) were basically flying bombs. They didn’t have guidance systems and just flew until they ran out of fuel and then crashed and exploded. They could adjust the fuel for distance, I suppose, but not much else.

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
AX24

576 members (1beaver_shooter, 222Sako, 10gaugemag, 1lesfox, 12344mag, 1badf350, 64 invisible), 2,415 guests, and 1,318 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,193,511
Posts18,509,390
Members74,002
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 


Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.



Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.154s Queries: 66 (0.033s) Memory: 0.9466 MB (Peak: 1.0737 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-05-13 22:14:57 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS