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ULA, NULA, and Current Wilson Combat NULA's are all nice firearms. I did not care for the stock on the ULA and NULA rifles but others like them. Tulsa Gun Show is this weekend and that would be the best place to find one to check out the stock etc.
Good luck in your search!
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When I put together my "nicest" pre 64 M70 a few years back I chose 280 AI, I have no regrets. That's my kind of "THE" rifle. Same here.
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If I weren’t so old and creaky, I’d have a 8” 7-08 barrel fitted to my Heym 98 that’s currently a .308, and go forth and slay…
but I am, so I won’t. It’s a fine thing to contemplate though…. geezer daydreamin’🤔 Pappy, do it. Something new to play with will keep you young!
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300 has a great point .. Up until his death, Elmer Keith was building and designing cartridges. I am convinced that helps keep us going.
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Yeah….probably wasn’t clear about barrel length vs suppressor vs ‘mountain’ stuff: I’m not likely suppressing any barrel over 18”. If it’s not threaded, I don’t care if it’s 22-24”. I doubt I’m climbing/packing myself in for any backpack hunts. I might do horses or hunt some other way, one day. I can hike the terrain, I just can’t carry the load on my back anymore, thanks to Uncle Sam. Western hunts would all be one offs from normal use. I might just need a 280/7-08/270 or such and a 9.3 safe weight.
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If I weren’t so old and creaky, I’d have a 8” 7-08 barrel fitted to my Heym 98 that’s currently a .308, and go forth and slay…
but I am, so I won’t. It’s a fine thing to contemplate though…. geezer daydreamin’🤔 Pappy, do it. Something new to play with will keep you young! That’s what the China Doll is for. Works pretty well except for this damn knee….
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300 has a great point .. Up until his death, Elmer Keith was building and designing cartridges. I am convinced that helps keep us going. It sure does. Even though, I have many "THE" rifles in the safe, that does not stop me from looking for more. Life is too short. Most of us here enjoy our hobby with a passion. Some of us are damn lucky, from the sounds of it, that we know what we like by now.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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I'd stay S/A and 8" RPM 7-08,is without peer. Hint.............. That’s where I’d be, too, except I might go 7CM.
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7mm-08 will stabilize Barnes 171 grain match burner and, better yet, a 160 grain TSX. If I needed anything bigger a 30-06 would be in order.
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I like the 7-08, but if I’m not restricted to a short action, why wouldn’t launching 160s and heavier 7mm pills be better if launched faster? I see zero reason for a 7-08 if I’m not stuck on a short action for a build. I’m not. I’m also not worried about what something does past 4-500. I’m more concerned what it does from 0-300. Even if I screwed a 7-08 tube on my Kimber, it wouldn’t feed heavies seated out without a lot of work. I wouldn’t care, either. I’d be perfectly happy with 120s-140s and letting it do 7-08 stuff. A 308 might make more (all around, hunting) sense, if I’m constrained to a short action, most days. As it sits, in 6.5 it’s no slouch for deer work and only gripe is it needs some smoothing out on the bolt/feeding vs other stuff.
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Why should I?…..vs other stuff? Are the really Cooper anymore, or Nighthawk of Arkansas, Kinda like Wilson? Not that it matters, but just trying to figure out why I’d spend $3k on one vs other stuff.
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...I’m also not worried about what something does past 4-500. I’m more concerned what it does from 0-300. Even if I screwed a 7-08 tube on my Kimber, it wouldn’t feed heavies seated out without a lot of work. I wouldn’t care, either. I’d be perfectly happy with 120s-140s and letting it do 7-08 stuff... Even more reason to go 6.5 CM or 7 CM over something that burns more powder. JMO, but for 0-300, you'd be better served by something that is more fun/inexpensive to shoot than something with more displacement. Having said that, logic only goes so far here, and if you just simply want a NULA in .280AI, then get it.
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Running suppressed, 308 vs 7-08 vs 6.5 recoil difference is negligible to me. More displacement would broaden my game spectrum that way….but I do agree it’s fun to shoot lighter stuff more and 6.5 is pretty cheap right now. My loading bench and gear is packed away in a shipping container until I can get my farm renovation done and shop built. I live with over the counter until then, which does suck in a lot of ways.
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@OP, do you like the ULA/NULA ergonomics? At one point in time I had both NULA 270 and a Kimber Ascent 270. Strongly preferred the ergonomics of the Kimber. Unfortunately Kimber swore to never build another left hand rifle. Eventually sold both of them. Currently five Ascents on GB in 280AI. If I were right handed that would be my one and done factory rifle. As above, JMO.
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I do like the Montana stock….original gray one is what’s on my 18” 6.5 Adirondack. Recoil with or without a suppressor, recoil is negligible for a very light rifle.
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I like the 7-08, but if I’m not restricted to a short action, why wouldn’t launching 160s and heavier 7mm pills be better if launched faster? I see zero reason for a 7-08 if I’m not stuck on a short action for a build. I’m not. I’m also not worried about what something does past 4-500. I’m more concerned what it does from 0-300. Even if I screwed a 7-08 tube on my Kimber, it wouldn’t feed heavies seated out without a lot of work. I wouldn’t care, either. I’d be perfectly happy with 120s-140s and letting it do 7-08 stuff. A 308 might make more (all around, hunting) sense, if I’m constrained to a short action, most days. As it sits, in 6.5 it’s no slouch for deer work and only gripe is it needs some smoothing out on the bolt/feeding vs other stuff. I actually like your idea of a 280 AI. Might be hard to find in a ULA or NULA but certainly worth loking for.
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Why should I?…..vs other stuff? Are the really Cooper anymore, or Nighthawk of Arkansas, Kinda like Wilson? Not that it matters, but just trying to figure out why I’d spend $3k on one vs other stuff. simple answer: Because you asked for "The rifle". Cooper is the easy answer and I've had 3 NULA's (all returned for warranty). As for the $3,000 comment you made, I would rather spend it on a Cooper than a NULA. Hope I answered your questions.
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Actually, you’re making me want to run away from Cooper.
You’ve given zero reasons why a cooper is the answer, except for ‘NULA bad’, and that it’s marked ‘Cooper’.
I’m no more and just as suspect of Cooper’s quality or service as I am a newer version of the NULA, due to changes in origin, owner, service, etc.
I know should probably just have something built. I’m just getting input on other options.
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