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That Hurricane pilot is about to fook up. With his wingtip on top of the V-1s, he'll have to roll INTO the V-1 to get it to upset. To avoid a midair, you'd have to get your wingtip under the other one and then roll sharply AWAY. Not trying to flip it. Just trying to disrupt the airflow: "The bumping action was a last resort. The idea was to get the wing of the plane as close to the missile as possible.”“Some pilots would have touched the wing – the different air pressure at the tip of the aircraft would be enough to cause a disturbance in the aerodynamics around the wing which is then enough to knock it off course, disrupt the gyroscopes and then get the aircraft crash into the ground.
“That’s all it needed to do to disrupt the flightpath, just slightly, and either by physically hitting the wing, or actually it takes more skill, to put the wing so close that the vortexes at the wingtip disturb the air around the V1 wing itself, causing it to go off course.”https://www.forces.net/heritage/wwii/how-spitfire-pilots-really-rammed-v1-bomb-out-sky
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Where did Hamas get the cruise missile? It said they thought it came from Yemen, so pick your Arab state.
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The wingtip vortices are little tornadoes generated by the air trying to go over and around the wingtip. They’re very powerful on a commercial jet and the heavier the a/c the stronger they are. They’re easily strong enough to cause loss of control.
Moving just a little forward of the missile’s wingtip would put it in the vortex and lift it,upsetting the gyros.
The little vertical winglets on commercial jets help disrupt the those vortices which reduces the drag caused by the wing’s creation of lift, decreasing fuel consumption.
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That Hurricane pilot is about to fook up. With his wingtip on top of the V-1s, he'll have to roll INTO the V-1 to get it to upset. To avoid a midair, you'd have to get your wingtip under the other one and then roll sharply AWAY.
Shooting down a cruise missile ought to be duck soup for an F-35. Straight and level, subsonic target with a bright IR signature. In fact, any fighter with an AIM-9 would find it as simple as look, lock, and launch. I see other have addresseds the photo. While it might be"duck soup" for the shootdown it was still the first time for an F-35, which was the point of the OP. Why so negative about everything?
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That Hurricane pilot is about to fook up. With his wingtip on top of the V-1s, he'll have to roll INTO the V-1 to get it to upset. To avoid a midair, you'd have to get your wingtip under the other one and then roll sharply AWAY.
Shooting down a cruise missile ought to be duck soup for an F-35. Straight and level, subsonic target with a bright IR signature. In fact, any fighter with an AIM-9 would find it as simple as look, lock, and launch. I see other have addresseds the photo. While it might be"duck soup" for the shootdown it was still the first time for an F-35, which was the point of the OP. Why so negative about everything? you pumped gas in the Air Force. Now you're a military egg spurt? lol
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The wingtip vortices are little tornadoes generated by the air trying to go over and around the wingtip. They’re very powerful on a commercial jet and the heavier the a/c the stronger they are. They’re easily strong enough to cause loss of control.
Moving just a little forward of the missile’s wingtip would put it in the vortex and lift it,upsetting the gyros.
The little vertical winglets on commercial jets help disrupt the those vortices which reduces the drag caused by the wing’s creation of lift, decreasing fuel consumption. Unclear on this. I thought V1’s (and any of that generations missiles) were basically flying bombs. They didn’t have guidance systems and just flew until they ran out of fuel and then crashed and exploded. They could adjust the fuel for distance, I suppose, but not much else.
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