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Originally Posted by Keechi_Kid
I would like to have the Mauser style extractor. That and an action made out of stainless. Not an easy combo to obtain. Also, the action being scaled down a bit more than the Tikka would be nice. Hard to get all those attributes in one.

Sounds like a Montana donor is your huckleberry, checks all your boxes.
Foolishly tripped the one with the suppressor, a 7-08AI, but will never sell the .223 next to it.
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Are the 223 Kimbers scaled down to 223, or is it the same action as 308 sized cartridges?

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Originally Posted by AKwolverine
Kimber made the Adirondack in 300 BO with a 16” threaded barrel.

I’d think about finding a hunter and sending it to outkast arms for conversion to your specs - they are turning out some nice stuff.

This would be pretty close to what I’m after. I found one listed on another forum, but they are pretty draconian about allowing new users to interact with the classifieds.

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Maybe look at the 8.6mm blackout? I lends itself to extremely short barrels, uber quiet with plenty of power for the range you want.



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Originally Posted by Keechi_Kid
Are the 223 Kimbers scaled down to 223, or is it the same action as 308 sized cartridges?
The 223s and 300 Blackout Kimber 84Ms are the same size action as the 308s, but the Kimber 84M action is a petite little thing compared to say....a Remington 700, and fits those smaller cartridges quite well. Suspect an Adirondack in 300 Blackout would be just right for what you're looking for, hope you're able to snag one!

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Originally Posted by Keechi_Kid
I am always pondering over some potential project or another.
I am infected with the same bug.

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I’m curious what thoughts are had about what I’ve come up with here or how others went to try to achieve the same goals.
I put together an 18" upper to shoot the .300 Ham'r, and I like it quite a bit, but it's a little long with my YHM R9 suppressor. I took it with me to TX for a pig hunt last year, and I really like how the .300 Ham'r put down hogs. Great little cartridge for the AR!

I also have a 10.5" SBR upper in .300 Blk, that's a lot handier, and I wouldn't mind getting an 11.3" Ham'r barrel for it, just because.

In a bolt gun, the Ruger American Ranch is an easy box to check. It's homely-looking, but mine (.300 Blk) is far more accurate than it deserves to be. A .300 Ham'r barrel can be had for the newer versions of the RAR that take AR mags, if a guy want to chase a little more speed with the lighter bullets.

If Howa still offered a Mini, chambered for .300 Blk, I would buy one in a second!

I really like the looks and handling of the Christensen Ridgeline Scout Rifle. I got to fondle one at a LGS, but I just can't bring myself to drop $2+k on one. For two grand, I think I can build something awfully close with one of the 700/.223s I have already.

Another thought would be a Christensen MPP. EuroOptics is blowing them out for a grand, in either the .223 or .300 Blk. A folding SB brace makes it a handy package, and it should be easy enough to turn into an SBR with a standard R700 stock. I just bought one in .223 Rem. It should be here next week, and I'm looking forward to messing with it.

Originally Posted by Keechi_Kid
Not sure on what suppressor that would be. Mind is completely open in that regard.
As far a suppressors go, I really like my YHM R9. I originally bought it for a threaded XDM, in 9mm, but it's far more versatile than just a pistol can. Besides the XDM, I've used it on an AR-9, 223, 300 Blk, 300 Ham'r, and 350 Legend. It's rated for 7.62 NATO, but I haven't put it on anything bigger than my 350L, yet. I like the R9 suppressor well enough, that I ordered a second one.

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My thought on optics would likely lean towards one of the old Kahles 2-7’s.
I really like the Trijicon Credo HX. I have three of the 1-4x models that EuroOptic had on closeout, earlier this year. I bought 3 of them, and I wish I would have snagged a few more when they were $400.


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I'm a big fan of the 9x39 Russian.

I also have an integrally suppressed 300 whatchamacallit but have only shot it once after finishing the 9x39.

The 9x39 just kinda skunks the blk all around, except where supersonics are concerned. Not many small 9.3mm mauser bullets around to load. But where subsonics are concerned, and reloading ease, the 9x39 skunks the blk. Easier to neck up the 7.62x39 brass. Don't have to trim and resize brass. Bigger bullet. More energy on target, better ballistics once they hit something (big heavy 308 isn't a very good expander unless you cast with wheel weights or using all copper pills).

Sounds better than my blk too despite virtually same length suppressors.

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The 8.6 built off an 84m could be really nice. I’m curious if there any nice bullets built for its velocity range. 110 Barnes and its performance are what is attractive about the 300 blackout. That bullet just works so well for the velocity window the 300 Bo gives you in an sbr.

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Originally Posted by Keechi_Kid
The 8.6 built off an 84m could be really nice. I’m curious if there any nice bullets built for its velocity range. 110 Barnes and its performance are what is attractive about the 300 blackout. That bullet just works so well for the velocity window the 300 Bo gives you in an sbr.

Only way the 8.6 BO would be interesting to me is running subsonics. Really feel the same about the 300 even my boys are hunting one this year with the 110 barnes. But I would have much rather had a 6 arc or 6.5 Gren.

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The AR-15 platform with a version of the collapsible stock, folder or telescoping. Sota Arms makes a free float knurled aluminum forearm. Plus SOTA also makes a .308 1-10 twist 7.62x39 chambered 16" barrel, threaded 5/8x24. The combination gives you in effect, a 30-30 with a box magazine, that runs 150s at 2,500 with 1680. The old 7.62x39 die sets come with a 30 cal sizer and expander ball, for the original Mini-30s which all had .308 barrels with 1-10 twist. I have two 30x39 ARs with collapsible stocks for riding 1 1/2 miles of fence two to three times a month. You can use the the 220-230 grain subs as well. I have a Form 1 can for use with them, the 358 can is very quiet on the 30 cal barrel. With a just an AR flash suppressor it is a 16" About 33% more energy over what the BO can ever be, and you can shoot 7.62x39 ammo in it if in a pinch. I also have a BO but rarely take it out any longer, as the 30x39 over shadows it with 150s

I also carry a 6mm Mongoose for longer distance. When and if I start seeing Coyote sign.


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