Like I said, a lot of guys don't know what they are looking at. I agree, that they did get ripped off. Too much wrong going on with that rifle. It's best to try to stay well informed so this does not happen. I remember one guy here bought a 300H&H, he posted pics and was very proud of that rifle, then I brought up the fact that it was made on a standard action receiver. Stuck out like a sore thumb, but he had no idea that he had just got ripped off. He just saw it as a beautiful pre 64 model 70. Buyers beware!!