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Keep the pope off the Moon.
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Maybe 20 years back there was an exhibit came to town…..
The Treasures of the Vatican…. lots of riches and art works from across Centuries.
It absolutely made my skin crawl and I was raised Catholic.
OTOH I know and have known many, many good people who are practicing Catholics; my mom for example.
But I do distrust the Clergy, and that exhibit to me reeked of perversion.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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Maybe 20 years back there was an exhibit came to town…..
The Treasures of the Vatican…. lots of riches and art works from across Centuries.
It absolutely made my skin crawl and I was raised Catholic.
OTOH I know and have known many, many good people who are practicing Catholics; my mom for example.
But I do distrust the Clergy, and that exhibit to me reeked of perversion. The Catholic Church does many good things for mankind like their Saint Vincent de Paul centers for example and like you I know many good, practicing Catholics and they’re very disturbed with the direction this Pope taken. The New Orleans Diocese has claimed bankruptcy due to claims against it for clergy misbehavior. Tithes and donations have totally dried up if the media can be believed.
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The ban on Freemasonry goes way back.
The primary reason is “Indifferentism” (belief in any god is approved for Freemasonry).
Pope Francis is actually quite conservative, the press just reports what they want to hear.
One of the MSM’s big lies is “Who am I to judge” when he was speaking about homosexuality.
That is accurate as far as it goes. The church does not judges souls. The Church judge’s actions. Thus, homosexual acts are prohibited.
The Church is required by Christ to bring sinners to Christ. But the MSM never reports the “repent and believe in the gospel” part.
Pope Francis is currently telling some German Bishops that they cannot bless a homosexual unions.
BMT This week, the Pope said that the church would allow transgender Catholics to be baptised and serve as godparents as long as it did not create scandal or “confusion”.
He has previously stated that gay marriages could be blessed and the church was “open to all” as part of growing outreach to the LGBTQ community.
Pope Francis has also spoken out frequently about climate change as a grave threat.
His approach has put him at odds with more conservative elements of the church in the US. The pope is clearly not a man of God. He's a communist and nothing more.
Don't be the darkness.
America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.
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Aren’t the Knights of Columbus the Catholic version of Freemasonry?
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To that I would add the Catholic Hospitals serving the poor around the world. There are many unsung Mother Theresa types, both men and women, quietly laboring amid the poverty-stricken out there.
The whole celibacy thing always seem unnatural to me. Maybe too because back in the 60’s I attended a Catholic Middle School-level Institution taught by an Order of Lay Irish Brothers. Of the maybe ten Brothers, it turned out two were active homosexual pedophiles.
I was never a victim but the vibe was there. It is simply astonishing today what was overlooked back then.
"...if the gentlemen of Virginia shall send us a dozen of their sons, we would take great care in their education, instruct them in all we know, and make men of them." Canasatego 1744
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When I was about 10 years old, I told my mother I wanted to be a Catholic. She about had a fit and began hauling my young ass to the Episcopal church every week, whether my father got out of bed or not.
She never asked why. One reason was because my best friend at the time was a Catholic and had me convinced that only Catholics would go to heaven, everyone else would go to hell. The big reason though, was because another friend, a guy a little older who knew about everything, told me the Catholic churches had a lot of gold hidden in the back rooms and they had arsenals full of weaponry in the basements.
Mathew 22: 37-39
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Raping children and covering it up is forgivable. Being involved in a prestigious non catholic club is a sin. Interesting group of folks, they should unite with muslim scum and start a whole new religion.
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Just about the only thing in which Catholicism and I are in agreement The Catholic Church has had this right from the start. PS The reason the Catholic Church started The Knights of Columbus was to minimize the temptation for Catholic men to join Freemasonry. The idea was that this was a men's club that gave a similar kind of benefit to its members, but without all the problems associated with Freemasonry.
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Just about the only thing in which Catholicism and I are in agreement The Catholic Church has had this right from the start. PS The reason the Catholic Church started The Knights of Columbus was to minimize the temptation for Catholic men to join Freemasonry. The idea was that this was a men's club that gave a similar kind of benefit to its members, but without all the problems associated with Freemasonry. I know 2 men that belong to both organizations one of which is a District Attorney.
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"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined.”
Patrick Henry
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I don’t think that the man is a dope. He’s riding herd over one of the world’s larger entities and lives in a fishbowl for most everyone to watch his every move and hear his every word.
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The reason the Catholic Church started The Knights of Columbus was to minimize the temptation for Catholic men to join Freemasonry. The idea was that this was a men's club that gave a similar kind of benefit to its members, but without all the problems associated with Freemasonry. This is generally correct The Knights of Columbus began as a men’s group in New Haven CT Link: https://www.kofc.org/en/who-we-are/our-history/founding-and-early-acts.html
"The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II
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If I were Catholic, I'd ignore anything coming out of the current Kooky Pope's mouth if it wasn't scripture. That guy is determined to destroy the church. There is absolutely nothing the catholic hierarchy could say that would be believable or interesting.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Since Catholicism is a doctrine of works and not Grace who cares
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I think joining clubs or groups to be unhealthy.
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I think joining clubs or groups to be unhealthy. I refuse to be a member of any club or group that would have me as a member.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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Since Catholicism is a doctrine of works and not Grace who cares That is wildly mistaken. Not nearly enough room to explain in this thread, link: https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/faith-and-works-0
Last edited by BMT; 11/17/23.
"The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II
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Can Catholics take their kids to a shiner's hospital?
Be interesting to ask his holiness this.
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Can Catholics take their kids to a shiner's hospital?
Be interesting to ask his holiness this. Yes. Catholic hospitals also offer services to Shriners.
Last edited by BMT; 11/17/23.
"The Church can and should help modern society by tirelessly insisting that the work of women in the home be recognized and respected by all in its irreplaceable value." Apostolic Exhortation On The Family, Pope John Paul II
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