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I've always been told form 4 if it's a complete sbr / sbs.

Yes.

If a FFL07/SOT manufactures a SBR it is then registered with the BATF on a Form 2 and kept at the place of manufacture.

It can only be tranferred to another FFL/SOT on a Form 3 or transferred to a person in state on a Form 4.

If a person wishes to make their own SBR by attaching an upper w/ short barrel to a lower they already own then they EFile a Form 1. After paying the tax stamp and getting approval they engrave the lower with their name, city/state, and a serial number.

Now they can legally attach the short barrel upper onto their lower.

Form 1s are typically quite a bit faster approval, usually less than 45 days.

Hope this helps.

^That, explains a lot. Thanks.

John laid it out pretty simple.

I built a pistol lower complete with a pistol RE so the brace wasn’t even a concern. This allowed me to buy a 11.5” Colt upper and shoot it while I was waiting on my approval. It also allows me to take it across state lines on the pistol lower.

My form 1 e-file took about 45 days. Form 4’s are running about a year. There are threads that track wait times on each form type on arfcom, M4C and Reddit usually in the NFA sections.

I had my SBR lower engraved but since it already had a serial number, just my name, city and state was required.

YGTBFKM….a year….Too long for me, How many LGS are holding rifles for a year? Might go the Form 1 route, cheaper also……minus the engraving.

Lots of them I’d bet. My suppressor was 182 days I think, a buddy got his in 8 days and another friend waited over 11 months. You just never know but the form 1 SBR is the fastest way right now.

My last suppressor was 16 months.

Anyone selling NFA item's knows the game and long hold times are just part of it.

Keep in mind, while you're waiting they have your money AND your gun, so all the risk and interest expense is on you. With the current AFT purge of LGSs this is not a small risk, so chose your NFA dealer carefully.

Yep, we had one get robbed and finally shut down, ATF got involved heavily and the guy was caught. It was a mess for those that were waiting on approvals.

My 1st suppressor approved on 05/18/23 after 273 days.
My 2nd suppressor approved on 10/18/23 after 202 days.
My 3rd suppressor submitted on 06/19/23 and has not yet been approved. 154 days.

Jim

Form 1 is easy and usually a lot quicker than a form 4 for complete SBR or suppressor. For a form 1, just buy the upper and lower separately. File the form 1 with the serial number from the lower. Once approved, you can then combine the upper and lower legally. Form 1s have been taking about 30 business days lately.

I submitted a Form 1 for a SBR on 11/22 and got it approved 12/7.

Thanks.