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So happy with the way this shot this morning . I brought two different loads to try .

Well that would make me very happy as well, nice groups.

And that is one of the reasons we love model 70 rifles. Especially the pre 64's. They had very good barrels, right out of the factory, and they always functioned 100%. BobinNH used to say they were coddled at the factory and good to go right out of the box. He was right. I remember my first pre 64 30-06, all original 1950 std wt, with an old gloss redfield 3-9x40 on top. The first 3 shot group I shot with the old girl measured 3/8". A nice little clover that told me the rifle was a keeper. Op's looks like a keeper as well.

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Great stuff! Who’d have guessed, another great shooting P64 270!

Its a 30-06, but I do have a 1957 model 70, 270 FW that shoots as good .

That’ll put meat in the skillet! Very nice rifle.

Nothing about that to not like! Love my 1951 Std wt .30-06!

Nice shooting !

Super good

It's never un-fun to see a post like this. 😄

I’m going to try some more loads, and shoot some of same. Would love to get three shots touching, thats my goal !

Maybe try 52gr of IMR4064 with that 150gr Hornady. Always worked real well in my Winnies.

Another great old classic model 70....they never get old to me.

Dinny, will give it a go!

It's always nice when that happens. Sometimes you'll get lucky and find one that will put 5 in the same hole. That's when you throw everything in the truck and say, ok I'm done!!! My last 270 std wt I bought shoots like that. I used to dislike 270 win, but when they shoot that damn good, it makes you rethink things..

I got the type of group that you're seeking with my pre'64 .35 Whelen rebore, the load was one that Ken Waters listed as "most accurate" in his Pet Loads. No matter what caliber I can always find an accurate load in Pet Loads, it's been a great source over the years. In my files I have several letters from Ken from back in the day when he would answer Handloader magazine readers questions with personal letters. Ken was very generous with his knowledge and experience, one of the great handloading writers.

That's always nice, when a rifle shoots that well. I've read a lot of Ken Waters stuff too, along with a lot of other writers in the day. Some of their suggestions are great, some not so much. As for loads, if you can't work up your own in your own rifle, well then so be it. There's what you call load development, then there's what you call getting lucky:



If you get a load from someone else, or out of a magazine article from someone and it shoots well, that's called getting lucky. I always like for the rifle to tell me what it likes, and that takes some testing. Multiple groups shot, in varying temps as well.

Nice shooting BSA !
A group from my 1957 Win.70 feather weight 270.

Nice. That looks like a keeper. Keep us posted on your 30-06. I always love a good shooting and good looking 30-06!!! I have one 1956 fwt 30-06 that is in its original aluminum butt plate stock. I glass bedded the rifle because I said I'd never sell it.


I had a 1957 270 fwt that shot better, but I unfortunately sold it. Didn't care for 270 much. Now I have that 1956 270 fwt that I plan on keeping forever. It is also glass bedded, but I have not worked up a load for that old girl. Just shot some factory ammo through it, but it is a shooter. With cheap blue box Federal 150gr ammo, it holds .6 moa at 400 yards. I think it has the potential to be "scary" accurate. A shame that 270 doesn't interest me more than it does.


I love range time with my model 70's. Doesn't even have to be a pre 64 either. I was shooting my 1996 heavy barrel 308 the other day, giving my Tikka's a run for their money. Maybe even putting a little hurt on those Tikkas. That's fun!!!

Probably the next 30-06 going to the range will be my reciever sighted model 54 carbine, although thinking about selling it .