You people who think you'd just shoot down these drones with shotguns are in so far over your heads they'd have to pump daylight to you.
Cover yourself with cold mud and set booby traps?
@jameslavish
If you work 40 hrs/wk: at 5% inflation and after 5 years, you need a 28% pay raise or to work 44 more hours (*one full extra week* per month+) to make up the difference.
Many pharmacies ask you to prove your age because cough syrup contains "dextromethorphan." If you drink enough of it, the effects can be like alcohol and it can get you intoxicated.
Guy's, Once the drone is up about 200 ft you'll have a hard time seeing or hearing it. First time you'll realize that the drone is anywhere around you is when the grenade lands next to you.
The Dronebuster SNA that I talked about had some sensors that allowed you to detect the various RF frequencies that drones use. It also had directional antennas that allowed you to narrow in on the drone. There was an LED strength indicator that would give you an idea how close it was to you.
There is more that other companies were doing regarding electronic detection, disabling, and destruction, but I'm not at liberty to discuss it. Suffice it to say it's not that hard of a problem and it it actively being addressed.
Were the enemy to go beyond the standard commercial control frequencies, and standard commercial AV frequencies, (without violating NDA/US security clearance regulations) are there solutions to the issue of drone detection and disablement?
It's been years since I played with a quadcopter, and thus can't recall frequencies used (even if spread spectrum), but there weren't that many, and it didn't seem like any evil actors would be all that constrained when it came to control and/or visual feedback to the operator. GPS jamming and/or spoofing didn't seem like an insurmountable problem either. I"m thinking the latter is what the Dronebuster is using, if you can point it at a simple UAV and then point the UAV where you want it to go crash.
P.S. 200' seems about right. For a quadcopter... For a dedicated quiet power glider, make that a lot closer. Think owl quiet....
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Many pharmacies ask you to prove your age because cough syrup contains "dextromethorphan." If you drink enough of it, the effects can be like alcohol and it can get you intoxicated.
Were the enemy to go beyond the standard commercial control frequencies, and standard commercial AV frequencies, (without violating NDA/US security clearance regulations) are there solutions to the issue of drone detection and disablement?
It's been years since I played with a quadcopter, and thus can't recall frequencies used (even if spread spectrum), but there weren't that many, and it didn't seem like any evil actors would be all that constrained when it came to control and/or visual feedback to the operator. GPS jamming and/or spoofing didn't seem like an insurmountable problem either. I"m thinking the latter is what the Dronebuster is using, if you can point it at a simple UAV and then point the UAV where you want it to go crash.
P.S. 200' seems about right. For a quadcopter... For a dedicated quiet power glider, make that a lot closer. Think owl quiet....
There is a constant fight between electronic warfare and drone attack. It ebbs and flows much like radars and missles.
The latest drones have AI algos that the operater can select a target from a far range and the drone will attack that target through optical, thermal, lidar on board sensors and guidance.
You better have an active/kenetic means of killing the drone on the way in if you want to survive.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
Guy's, Once the drone is up about 200 ft you'll have a hard time seeing or hearing it. First time you'll realize that the drone is anywhere around you is when the grenade lands next to you.
The Dronebuster SNA that I talked about had some sensors that allowed you to detect the various RF frequencies that drones use. It also had directional antennas that allowed you to narrow in on the drone. There was an LED strength indicator that would give you an idea how close it was to you.
There is more that other companies were doing regarding electronic detection, disabling, and destruction, but I'm not at liberty to discuss it. Suffice it to say it's not that hard of a problem and it it actively being addressed.
Were the enemy to go beyond the standard commercial control frequencies, and standard commercial AV frequencies, (without violating NDA/US security clearance regulations) are there solutions to the issue of drone detection and disablement?
It's been years since I played with a quadcopter, and thus can't recall frequencies used (even if spread spectrum), but there weren't that many, and it didn't seem like any evil actors would be all that constrained when it came to control and/or visual feedback to the operator. GPS jamming and/or spoofing didn't seem like an insurmountable problem either. I"m thinking the latter is what the Dronebuster is using, if you can point it at a simple UAV and then point the UAV where you want it to go crash.
P.S. 200' seems about right. For a quadcopter... For a dedicated quiet power glider, make that a lot closer. Think owl quiet....
The commercial/personal drones use 2.4 GHz and 5.8 Ghz for command and control. I'm not an RF guy but I'd think that it would be difficult to switch both the drone and the controller to different frequencies. But some inventive bad guy will probably figure it out once it gets to be a problem.
Cat and mouse.
They are spread spectrum. Think they are using QAM.
Can't say too much about how we did what regarding the GPS and CC, but getting the drone to go in the general direction you wanted it to was not hard once you had all your ducks in a row.
Jamming it to get it to land or hover is even easier.
How about jamming the radio signal with possibly a microwave device. Or shining a laser at the drone. The difficulty would be to detect the drone before it zeroes in on you.
I just watched a video from Ukraine today. It appears both sides are using some kind of jammer but they have very limited range. It appears AI has also been programmed into some of the drones. Not quite like launch and forget and let the drone do it's thing, but close.
kwg
For liberals and anarchists, power and control is opium, selling envy is the fastest and easiest way to get it. TRR. American conservative. Never trust a white liberal. Malcom X Current NRA member.
I think that ground wars should have stopped ages ago. You can do simple math on the resources and equipment each side has and know the winner before it starts. We could blow anyone off the face of the earth in a day. But we don't do that. We string it out for years and others countries do the same.