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What about a miniaturized version of the Phalanx CIWS that would shoot 5.56x45 instead of 20mm ammo?

What about it, retard?


The other product our company had was a weapon stabilization system. At the time I worked there they put one of the dronebusters on it along with a Dillion Areo (GE) Mini-gun. Let's just say that that setup was unbeatable in close in drone destruction.

Here's a video that shows the system, but not with the DB.


Yes I am sure they can hit a drone.

Yeah, but how do you field it at the small unit or individual level?

All this naysaying about the shotgun idea. How hard is it to hit a mostly stationary object 100’ above the ground as it’s about to release its payload on you? Many of these rooskies are fully aware that there is a drone above them and all they can do is beg or pray. Many of the explosives also appear to detonate on impact and be about the size of one of those nerf mini footballs with the fins attached. Should make a reasonable target.

A mini gun scaled down to 22lr might be small enough to be carried by the individual and have some other battlefield capabilities.


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Originally Posted by Stickfight
You people who think you'd just shoot down these drones with shotguns are in so far over your heads they'd have to pump daylight to you.
X10.

Anyone dumb enough to believe that they could just shoot them down with daddy’s ol 870 Wingmaster is living in fantasy land. Even if some how effective the other side is dictating to you the weapon (shotguns with birdshot) that you have to carry 24/7 while being chased by drones.

Probably the same guys that believe that there Rem 700 30-06 deer rifle is all that they need to fight in modern warfare.

Or that call suppressive fire “spray and pray” or believe that they’ll never miss in a firefight and see no need for anything more than a revolver.

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Steve...

Impressive...

Thanks for posting that.


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Yeah, but how do you field it at the small unit or individual level?

That was my point when I responded to the retard.


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Originally Posted by deflave
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What about a miniaturized version of the Phalanx CIWS that would shoot 5.56x45 instead of 20mm ammo?

What about it, retard?


The other product our company had was a weapon stabilization system. At the time I worked there they put one of the dronebusters on it along with a Dillion Areo (GE) Mini-gun. Let's just say that that setup was unbeatable in close in drone destruction.

Here's a video that shows the system, but not with the DB.


Yes I am sure they can hit a drone.


All about the targeting system; gun is blind w/o it.

My son was in the navy & they had mini-guns with camera guided targeting systems & they were awesome to see perform.

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If it comes to our neighborhoods guerilla tactics will play out. A lot of us grandpas will never know if our efforts made life better for our grandkids

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Originally Posted by Phillip_Nesmith
Wouldn't military drones be armored against something like shotgun pellets?


Armor is heavy. It reduces range and payload.

Developpement's going the direction of cheap and disposible, with some being made of cardboard. They are shipped flat and assembled near the point of use. Fold them like origami, slap in a battery, motor and warhead, and off they go.


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Originally Posted by Old Ornery
How about jamming the radio signal with possibly a microwave device. Or shining a laser at the drone. The difficulty would be to detect the drone before it zeroes in on you.

The Russian's are getting very good at jamming Ukrainian drones. Of course the jammers make a great target for anti-radiation missiles.

Israelies recently conducted a successful test of their new laser based anti-drone/rocket system "Iron Beam".


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They have the same systems around certain embassies.

They can even hit stray mortar rounds which is kinda creepy.

Terminator was a true story. LOL


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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Steve
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
What about a miniaturized version of the Phalanx CIWS that would shoot 5.56x45 instead of 20mm ammo?

What about it, retard?


The other product our company had was a weapon stabilization system. At the time I worked there they put one of the dronebusters on it along with a Dillion Areo (GE) Mini-gun. Let's just say that that setup was unbeatable in close in drone destruction.

Here's a video that shows the system, but not with the DB.


Yes I am sure they can hit a drone.

Yeah, but how do you field it at the small unit or individual level?

All this naysaying about the shotgun idea. How hard is it to hit a mostly stationary object 100’ above the ground as it’s about to release its payload on you? Many of these rooskies are fully aware that there is a drone above them and all they can do is beg or pray. Many of the explosives also appear to detonate on impact and be about the size of one of those nerf mini footballs with the fins attached. Should make a reasonable target.

A mini gun scaled down to 22lr might be small enough to be carried by the individual and have some other battlefield capabilities.

With the armament capacities growing on the smaller drones, I’d have to believe by the time the drone came within shotgun range and you were successful in hitting it you’re dead as well.
Something with more reach would be needed.

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Originally Posted by Steve
Guy's, Once the drone is up about 200 ft you'll have a hard time seeing or hearing it. First time you'll realize that the drone is anywhere around you is when the grenade lands next to you.

The Dronebuster SNA that I talked about had some sensors that allowed you to detect the various RF frequencies that drones use. It also had directional antennas that allowed you to narrow in on the drone. There was an LED strength indicator that would give you an idea how close it was to you.

There is more that other companies were doing regarding electronic detection, disabling, and destruction, but I'm not at liberty to discuss it. Suffice it to say it's not that hard of a problem and it it actively being addressed.

Now if someone would just pair that with a 30mm autocannon, proximity fused ammo and stick it on a pickup, oh, wait, what are those crazy Aussies up to?

https://eos-aus.com/defence/counter-drone-systems/slinger/

High precision weapon platform weighing less than 400 kg

Fully stabilised for on-the-move operation

Echodyne ultra-low size, weight, and power (SWaP) 4D targeting radar with active beamsteering ESA

4-axis sighting system with sensor unit that moves independently of the gun in both elevation and azimuth

Exquisite pointing technology for extreme accuracy

Bushmaster M230LF 30 x 113mm cannon

Lightweight 30 mm Proximity Sensing Ammunition with radio frequency proximity-fuzed, high explosive, fragmentation round

Wind sensor.



Oerlikon is doing something similar, but they're putting it on an APC chassis.



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A little publicized development on the modern battlefield is the deployment of armored Walls of Sound to play dramatic music while the other super weapons drive around looking badass...


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
[quote=Steve]Guy's, Once the drone is up about 200 ft you'll have a hard time seeing or hearing it. First time you'll realize that the drone is anywhere around you is when the grenade lands next to you.

The Dronebuster SNA that I talked about had some sensors that allowed you to detect the various RF frequencies that drones use. It also had directional antennas that allowed you to narrow in on the drone. There was an LED strength indicator that would give you an idea how close it was to you.

There is more that other companies were doing regarding electronic detection, disabling, and destruction, but I'm not at liberty to discuss it. Suffice it to say it's not that hard of a problem and it it actively being addressed.

Now if someone would just pair that with a 30mm autocannon, proximity fused ammo and stick it on a pickup, oh, wait, what are those crazy Aussies up to?

https://eos-aus.com/defence/counter-drone-systems/slinger/

High precision weapon platform weighing less than 400 kg

Fully stabilised for on-the-move operation

Echodyne ultra-low size, weight, and power (SWaP) 4D targeting radar with active beamsteering ESA

4-axis sighting system with sensor unit that moves independently of the gun in both elevation and azimuth

Exquisite pointing technology for extreme accuracy

Bushmaster M230LF 30 x 113mm cannon

Lightweight 30 mm Proximity Sensing Ammunition with radio frequency proximity-fuzed, high explosive, fragmentation round

Wind sensor.



Oerlikon is doing something similar, but they're putting it on an APC chassis.

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Can the radar be jammed?? Can primitive artillery take it out??Lol. You should stick to pushing the ineffective Covid vaccine and repeated boosters. That seemed to be your knowledge speciality

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Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
A little publicized development on the modern battlefield is the deployment of armored Walls of Sound to play dramatic music while the other super weapons drive around looking badass...


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Originally Posted by deflave
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Originally Posted by deflave
Don't they use these at a lot of embassies?

I didn't hear about that. As embassies are fixed they can do more elaborate and powerful stuff. These are meant to be put with ground troops.

I think they do.

My son was at one recently and explained that capability. Said they were shoulder fired. But never had any pics.


The DB is hand held but not shoulder mounted. Like a radar gun. Would be nice to have a fold-able stock on it, though.


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Originally Posted by Steve
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Originally Posted by Steve
Originally Posted by deflave
Don't they use these at a lot of embassies?

I didn't hear about that. As embassies are fixed they can do more elaborate and powerful stuff. These are meant to be put with ground troops.

I think they do.

My son was at one recently and explained that capability. Said they were shoulder fired. But never had any pics.


The DB is hand held but not shoulder mounted. Like a radar gun. Would be nice to have a fold-able stock on it, though.

Might have been something different. He said they were used regularly.


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The biggest advantage drones produce is their scouting function. A relatively tiny drone equipped with a camera can locate positions and send back its GPS coordinates. That ability combined with GPS guided artillery makes the battlefield a very sketchy place to be.

It's difficult to get any truly reliable information about the technology that's being used by Russia. But it's been reported several times that Russia has developed the ability to jam the guidance systems of many types of high tech munitions. I would assume that if Russia has that ability, all first world militaries also have it or soon will.

It makes me believe that any future large battles will largely be decided by which side has the best ability to negate the opponent's weapons guidance abilities.

It also makes me believe that governments will need to start thinking very hard about whether they want to get involved with making war. If the enemy has the ability to put a 500 lb warhead in your personal toilet, you might want to sleep on it before you stir up some schitt with them.

Maybe that's a good thing? I guess it depends.

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Originally Posted by Bristoe
It also makes me believe that governments will need to start thinking very hard about whether they want to get involved with making war. If the enemy has the ability to put a 500 lb warhead in your personal toilet, you might want to sleep on it before you stir up some schitt with them.

Maybe that's a good thing? I guess it depends.

They’ll just build a better toilet.


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About time to post this again.



You girls keep posting videos of systems that won't be there to save you from the drone swarm.

I choose to rely on training and cutting edge rifles.


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