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Which is the better cheap rifle and why?
I held both today, is this somewhat accurate?
Reliability - Ruger (Savage known to have weak extract/ejection) Accuracy - Equally good reviews Stock - Savage (adjustable, looks better), Ruger (weaker forends?) Trigger - Savage Accutrigger Safety - Savage 3 position vs Ruger 2 position Price - Savage ($369 after rebate), Ruger ($499-$519) Finish/Rust resistance - ?? Customer Service - ??
Share your experience and thoughts…
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I've got Ruger. Americans in:
300 BO 7.62x39 350 BM .308win .243win .308win All shoot well,no problems
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Which is the better cheap rifle and why?
I held both today, is this somewhat accurate?
Reliability - Ruger (Savage known to have weak extract/ejection) Accuracy - Equally good reviews Stock - Savage (adjustable, looks better), Ruger (weaker forends?) Trigger - Savage Accutrigger Safety - Savage 3 position vs Ruger 2 position Price - Savage ($369 after rebate), Ruger ($499-$519) Finish/Rust resistance - ?? Customer Service - ??
Share your experience and thoughts… I have 2 Ruger Americans Both have been reliable Both have been very accurate Stock, people complain about them being wimpy on the Ruger but they have a very good bedding system Trigger....both are garbage, but Timney hit a homerun with the Ruger trigger Safety....never use one Finish nothing special but no rust Customer service, I screwed up a part that was my fault and Ruger replaced it for free btw: in Utah you would be in the crosshairs of our state government.....The Names Dixie and Rebel have been deemed offensive to Black people, Mexicans and Native Americans, All schools and businesses have been re-named in the last couple of years. Hope they let you keep the name here
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I have a bunch of Savages, bought 3 apiece for my three boys as they grew into others. Not a bad one in the bunch.
Last year on advice of a rancher friend I bought a Ruger American Predator in .223. I thought it would be a good back up for a couple custom .243 I use for coyotes. Ha! That little Ruger is the sweetest most accurate shooter out of the box I may have purchased to date. It has replaced the .243’s.
The only drawback if any is the upward throw of the bolt after the trigger pull, is tight. It has gotten better with use. The one my friend has is just fine so maybe I got luck of the draw on that one.
Given the two choices I’d be Ruger all the way. That’s just me.
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Example of one, and not mine, but the Axis I helped a guy bore sight the other day had issues with the magazine release and bolt release. Very annoying, and I suspect they don’t do any function testing, just slap ‘em together and plop ‘em in the box. Sometimes, that works and sometimes it lets problem guns get out the door. One of my pets, a Howa Mini 6.5G, only cost me $359 with two stocks. I’ve upgraded it quite a bit, but the bones were solid from the getgo. Those can still be found on sale, and Brownells sells the barreled actions very reasonably, also the full-size ones.
I’d consider an RAR, especially one for a straight-wall cartridge if I ever planned to hunt in one of the states hobbled with those rules. Most owners seem to like them pretty well, aside from some issues with magazines.
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I have a Ruger Compact in .243 Win. For $464 I can't ask for too much more. I use it for deer hunting in the marshes where compact is best and a 30 yd . shot is avr. and a 50 yd shot is rare. I looked for the most compact gun I could find. I also have a Savage 12FV in .223 Rem. However that is a target gun. I like the trigger , it is accurate but that is where it all ends. The Ruger isn't all that accurate. I get about 2" @ 100yds. and that is it, but who cares.
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A third option to propose- get a used variant of Savage 10, with scope?
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I run mostly Savage rifles (both the Axis and 110 lines). I don't have a bad rifle in the bunch BUT RAR is a fine rifle as is Tikka, and a few others under $700. My list of rifles I don't care for is much shorter than the list of rifles I will shoot. I'll also add that in Arizona, in the summer when is 110+ degrees outside, plastic stocks like those on the Savage or RAR will tend to flex. Its usually the first thing I upgrade.
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I have 2 Ruger Americans, a Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor and a standard in .243 Win. The Creedmoor is extremely accurate. I can get MOA groups from the .243 with bullets it likes, but it's nothing special in the accuracy department.
The rifles function fine and I tweaked the triggers with a lighter spring so they are at 2.5-3 lbs. I find the stocks a little tricky to shoot off a benchrest, but they're fine in the field.
There's nothing very esthetic about them, but Ruger Americans seem to be good functional rifles.
I have no experience with the Savages.
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Great input from all of you. Thank you.
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I have two Ruger Americans. One is a ranch rifle in .300 Blk, and it shoots really well. My Predator, in .223, hasn't shown me anything special in the accuracy dept. I don't think I've gotten better than 1-1/2" groups with it at 100yds, which is disappointing.
The factory triggers aren't horrible, but they're not great, either. The stocks are ugly, but they work.
I have considered getting a Boyds stock and an aftermarket trigger for my Blackout, but it shoots so well, I haven't messed with it.
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$100 for the used rifle and 2-7 redfield scope. After a chop to 20", open sights, aluminum bolt shroud, 2 used steel AI mags, retro-fit of boyds AI bottom metal: $677 all up. I shoot nothing but 200 grain bullets out of this little 308 win. I shoot this American more than any of my other rifles.
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They both make good rifles . I have had plain Jane 110’s , 10T , and 116 Have had Ruger American , Ranch , and Compact Couldn’t find fault in any of them , accuracy or dependability In 308 , 270 , 30-06 , 300aac , 243 , and 223 Kenneth
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I have 6 americans, 2-223, 6creedmoor, 6.5creedmoor, 6.5prc and a 7.62x39. All accurate, I would get the 22-250 but i doubt it would handle the heavier bullets with the 1-10 twist. 223's & creeds set up for aics mags and the 7.62x39 is set up for AR mags for the x39.
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I get all rubbery when I see el'cheapo savage outshoot le based XYZ. Post em if you gottem (no Rugers here).?!
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Got both, would go Savage if I had to make a choice, both fine rifles.
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I have had one of each. Both shot well. Much prefer the stock on the savage.
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Got a LH RAR in 308 some time ago as a cheap/beater rifle. Very accurate with about any 150 factory load I've put through it. Has become my go to for local deer. I treat it like my lawn mower. I would have several if they were still $350.
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Won a Savage Apex in 260 Rem. at a local gun raffle it came with a cheap Vortex scope Crossfire i think it is. Sighted it in with some Federal Premium I had laying around then stretched it out to 400 yards shot 5 in 2 5/8 of an inch. Definitely going to get a better scope and some load work up.
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I only have a RAR in 7mm-08. It shoots accurately and has held up well. I would definitely buy another one.
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