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Cherry trees are easy

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My son planted an apple core when he was 3.

I have dug up and transplanted the resulting tree twice now.

It is near the well/pump and I don’t want the roots to destroy the well.

Another nice sapling will be dug up soon :sigh:

My son is 23 now.

This has gotta be the only Apple core that a kid buried that lived

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Originally Posted by BC30cal
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Good afternoon sir, I hope that the day behaved thus far for you and your fine family.

Thanks for the interesting tidbit about the forest of wild apples, I'd not heard of that before but it's not surprising.

Somewhere I read something to the effect that most if not all of Johnny Appleseed's orchards were cider apples. If I'm not wrong, a whole lot of the varieties were lost as well when Prohibition came in as there was a concerted effort to eradicate said cider trees because of the demon alcohol they produced.

We had a volunteer tree in our yard that produced the nicest apples, which unfortunately had to be taken out when we did a major renovation.

Now you could ask me if I grabbed some buds from it and grafted them onto the Granny Smith tree in the yard, you know like someone with even a minute amount of forethought would have done.

I'd appreciate it if you didn't ask me that Sitka, but you could.....

When we had horses still and I used to roam the mountain behind the house via Appaloosa power, there were a few volunteer trees that we found over the years that she loved to stop at.

Honestly looking back at it now, she likely smelled them and steered me over towards the wild apples and since I was hunting mostly and not paying attention always to where she wandered.

Interestingly apples, apricots and plums are the only wild or maybe feral fruit trees we find in the hills, never a cherry, peach or nectarine tree.

Most of the apple trees in the orchards here are grafted root stock which I'm told are more disease resistant, but I'm not sure if that's the case or not.

Thanks again and all the best to you all.

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My grandfather was very big on apples. His favorite had 26 varieties grafted to a fair-sized tree. In the fall the different varieties would start expressing themselves all around the tree. But the other thing he grafted to the tree was a huge variety of sizes, colors, forms, etc. of roses. Some bloomed throughout the growing season.

The year he died his apple tree did too. Completely unexpected.

All the best to you Dwayne!


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Originally Posted by earlybrd
Cherry trees are easy


So are peaches, there’s one that produces nice fruit in the back yard that grew from a pit in the compost pile.

The hard part is recognizing what they are when only 5 or 6 inches tall before running them over with the mower, weed wacking them or pulling the sprouts as weeds. Once identified put a piece of wire around them to discourage the rabbits.


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At my age, I’d rather spend more and buy/plant a good size tree. Don’t want to waste the years I have left in wait.



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Just for fun, not fruit, and tropical, so not viable except as houseplants, are the mango and tangerine trees, bushes really, that my wife started from seeds from grocery store fruit. The tangerine is getting pretty big, which makes dragging it in and out of the garage to keep it from freezing. I need to get something to put under it to protect the floors in the house and just bring it in for the Winter.


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I planted around 200 seeds in starter pots this Spring. I got 5 to sprout and transplanted them in the raised bed for a few years. I have one tree that came from a seed I planted that is now 20 feet or so tall. It is surrounded by other apple trees yet that one has never blossomed or produced any fruit. The seed came from a fruit basket someone gave us when my Dad was in the hospital after a heart attack. If it weren't for that, the tree would have been cut down and replaced years ago.


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Are there any apples that grow true to seed?

How to Grow an Apple Tree From Seed
Apples do not reproduce true to type, meaning that the tree grown from a specific variety of seed will produce apples almost certain to be different than the parent. You can have fun and experiment, but don't expect to have the same fruit. Also, almost all varieties are unable to pollinate themselves



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Persimmons are good easy to grow don’t eat a green one 🤢

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Somewhere I read something to the effect that most if not all of Johnny Appleseed's orchards were cider apples. If I'm not wrong, a whole lot of the varieties were lost as well when Prohibition came in as there was a concerted effort to eradicate said cider trees because of the demon alcohol they produced.
Chapman was a wandering preacher who covered lots of miles on foot and though it would be great if travelers could have apples to eat along the way. He went to cider presses and collected seeds that he planted wherever he went. Most of them were poor quality, usable for cider but not much for eating.
25 or 30 years ago, Stark Bros was selling starts from what they claimed was the only remaining living tree that could be documented as having been planted by Chapman himself. My wife was teaching 4th grade in a Christian school and they covered Chapman's history. She got one of the trees for a lesson for the kids and we grew it. The tree was very prolific but the apples were terrible. They were very large and flat and very bitter. They were useless for fresh juice or eating but they might have made passable hard cider if fermented.


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Did Jonny Appleseed really wear a pot on his head?

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Persimmons are like naggers. They send out shoots all around the perimeter of the parent. One tree can start a grove. RZ.


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Originally Posted by Whiptail
Are there any apples that grow true to seed?

How to Grow an Apple Tree From Seed
Apples do not reproduce true to type, meaning that the tree grown from a specific variety of seed will produce apples almost certain to be different than the parent. You can have fun and experiment, but don't expect to have the same fruit. Also, almost all varieties are unable to pollinate themselves
Apples have to be cross pollinated to produce fruit. That means that the pollen comes from a different tree. Breeders do a lot of work to develop a new variety and they cross 2 specific parents to get the right traits. The odds of getting the same thing from a random breeding is zero or less. Once a new variety is finished, all propagation is from cuttings as breeding from seeds is a crap shoot, even for the experts.
If you want to grow one from seed, don't bother. Grow it by rooting a cutting or better yet, graft it to another root stock.


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Originally Posted by wabigoon
The apple tree thread has me wondering.. Anyone raise fruit trees from seed?

You don’t have that much time.

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Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by wabigoon
The apple tree thread has me wondering.. Anyone raise fruit trees from seed?

You don’t have that much time.

Amen...


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My neighbor which was a cheery grower, grew his cherrie trees from a test tube. The only thing I remember was he cracked open the pit. He developed his on varieties.

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Originally Posted by Alan_C
My neighbor which was a cheery grower, grew his cherrie trees from a test tube. The only thing I remember was he cracked open the pit. He developed his on varieties.

Kinda the same with peach pits...

Crack 8-10 in a vise... put in a pot or soil/perlite/vermiculite... grown then until they are root bound... plant... wait a year in soil... then kill 7-9 of them.


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So far, I have started black walnut, native pecan and burr oak from the nut.
I've never had any luck starting or growing fruit trees! 😖

The black walnut and one of the pecan trees are bearing nuts.
Per "Google", it takes the burr oak THIRTY FIVE YEARS to produce acorns!!!!! (I'll be 105 years old! LOL!)

BTW! Anybody here got any "chink-a-pin" acorns they are willing to share?

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Originally Posted by 160user
I planted around 200 seeds in starter pots this Spring. I got 5 to sprout and transplanted them in the raised bed for a few years. I have one tree that came from a seed I planted that is now 20 feet or so tall. It is surrounded by other apple trees yet that one has never blossomed or produced any fruit. The seed came from a fruit basket someone gave us when my Dad was in the hospital after a heart attack. If it weren't for that, the tree would have been cut down and replaced years ago.

I would guess it was the base root stock the tree grew into.


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