Back in 2018 there was a big stir out in California over cattle roaming free in the Sand to Snow National Monument. There were also some pit bull dogs out there. The cattle and the dogs were scaring people that wanted to hike in the walk in only park. I believe horses are legal there. Looks like a good solution would be open season. Shoot all you want and drag them to the road with horses. Would be as good as bison beef, tough and tasty. With California's big Asian population the dogs could be hunted too.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Well, there was a lion or tiger that got loose near Pocatello or Idaho Falls some time back. An escapee from the zoo or circus or some such thing. When it was announced on the radio, most of SE Idaho went on a Safari in order to save the world from that man eater. Shooting Mrs. O’leary’s car scaped cow is pretty small potatoes for Idaho.
A couple friends went on a DIY aoudad hunt on public land somewhere in TX a few years back. The area had a bunch of feral cattle that were fair game. They saw some but didn't want to pack them out of the canyon, although legally they could have left them for the coyotes.
At the resort in Utah, which my daughter is employed, there had been several sightings of a loose Bovine. Within two hours of her Facebook post stating such, a rancher rolled up with three shepherds and a trailer full of saddled horses. He said it was his bull & had been missing for quite a while.
You never know. I'd hate to be skinning said Bovine when the rancher approached with several of his hands. Would likely be quite a tense situation.
"I never thought I'd live to see the day that a U.S. president would raise an army to invade his own country." Robert E. Lee
High fence deer and elk are farm animals. Some years ago, when Sen. Jim Risch was governor of Idaho, a bear tore down a fence at an elk farm in eastern ID. All the elk were ear tagged as required by law. The owner wasn't able to catch them all so the governor put out a carte blanche on them. Anyone could shoot any ear tagged elk at at any time. It was to prevent them from mixing with wild elk. The owner threatened to sue anyone who shot one. He would lose but it could cost a hunter a bundle in legal fees. Only a fool is going to involve himself in a lawsuit over an elk. That would be nuts. I never heard how it all came out or whether all of the elk were eventually captured. I don't think all that many were shot, though. As revenge, the elk owner ran against Risch in the next election. He got shellacked.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
If you find some feral cows, let me know The sheep are all yours.
i prefer sheeps because of my ethnicity .
I would not want to eat a feral sheep.
Jim; Good afternoon, I hope that this first day of the month/last day of the week finds you and all of your fine family well.
In ancient times, I want to say the mid '80's, I was hunting for Columbia Blacktail on one of the Gulf Islands between Vancouver Island and Washington.
My hunting partner used to live there and knew some of the locals so we had a bit of an in on some private land. The local fellow upon whose couches and floor we crashed, mentioned to my friend that the local feral sheep had been spotted recently by the outfit logging the chunk of land we'd be hunting.
There was some animated discussion regarding a couple instances where locals had attempted to eat one and found it much less than a satisfying culinary experience.
Sure enough, early the next morning as we were easing into the spot, I spied what looked like a blackberry bush moving slowly along or perhaps something in a homemade ghillie suit. Upon further examination with binos, we both spied the roughest looking unshorn, long tailed mess of a sheep one can imagine.
Even now as I type this Jim, I shake my head at how, well filthy and disheveled this thing looked.
Both of us wondered aloud just how hungry one might have to be to kill and attempt to eat it.
We also wondered if some sheep shed their wool naturally or if they just got so heavy eventually they couldn't stand.
In the back of my mind I want to say this thing looked like there were maybe patches of wool missing, but I might be totally wrong about that too Jim, as there's been a whole lot of memories made and lost since that hunt.
All the best to the OP in his quest for feral mutton for sure, though I'd love to hear if it's edible or not.
A friend who is a part time game warden (or the local equivalent) in New Zealand tells a story about trying to cull a feral sheep in his area of responsibility. It absorbed multiple hits from 12 gauge slugs with little apparent damage other than getting knocked down with every hit, and was finally put down by a .222 round to the head. They found the shotgun slugs imbedded in the thickly matted wool- - - -not a one had made it under the skin, let alone hit anything vital.
If you find some feral cows, let me know The sheep are all yours.
i prefer sheeps because of my ethnicity .
I would not want to eat a feral sheep.
Jim; Good afternoon, I hope that this first day of the month/last day of the week finds you and all of your fine family well.
In ancient times, I want to say the mid '80's, I was hunting for Columbia Blacktail on one of the Gulf Islands between Vancouver Island and Washington.
My hunting partner used to live there and knew some of the locals so we had a bit of an in on some private land. The local fellow upon whose couches and floor we crashed, mentioned to my friend that the local feral sheep had been spotted recently by the outfit logging the chunk of land we'd be hunting.
There was some animated discussion regarding a couple instances where locals had attempted to eat one and found it much less than a satisfying culinary experience.
Sure enough, early the next morning as we were easing into the spot, I spied what looked like a blackberry bush moving slowly along or perhaps something in a homemade ghillie suit. Upon further examination with binos, we both spied the roughest looking unshorn, long tailed mess of a sheep one can imagine.
Even now as I type this Jim, I shake my head at how, well filthy and disheveled this thing looked.
Both of us wondered aloud just how hungry one might have to be to kill and attempt to eat it.
We also wondered if some sheep shed their wool naturally or if they just got so heavy eventually they couldn't stand.
In the back of my mind I want to say this thing looked like there were maybe patches of wool missing, but I might be totally wrong about that too Jim, as there's been a whole lot of memories made and lost since that hunt.
All the best to the OP in his quest for feral mutton for sure, though I'd love to hear if it's edible or not.
Best to you all.
Dwayne
Brother Dwayne, I would venture to guess some on the left coast are attracted to sheep with dreadlocks and the smellier the better...... lmao
Originally Posted by Judman PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Most feral horse are protected by the Wild Free-Roaming Horses and Burro Act of 1971.
The family of Pioneer Woman cooking show host Ree Drummond earns an income by feeding feral horses on one of their ranches in Oklahoma. Somebody is making money on them. There are dozens of feral horses on Mesa Verde NP, more being born all the time, that the National Park Service is trying to catch and relocated within the next year or two. The NPS is paying to "tame" the horses that they capture so that they can be adopted by horse lovers.
If it has a brand or an ear tag it isn't abandoned, just confused about how to get home.
I've seen dairy cattle that escaped and they become feral pretty quickly. Quite surprising to see a Holstein cow come wandering through the woods when you're sitting in deer stand.
How many generations of offspring do they have to produce before they become livestock again? I'd like to see that process documented by somebody at an agricultural research facility!
A friend who is a part time game warden (or the local equivalent) in New Zealand tells a story about trying to cull a feral sheep in his area of responsibility. It absorbed multiple hits from 12 gauge slugs with little apparent damage other than getting knocked down with every hit, and was finally put down by a .222 round to the head. They found the shotgun slugs imbedded in the thickly matted wool- - - -not a one had made it under the skin, let alone hit anything vital.
When we were in NZ last year, we were told of a sheep that had evaded the roundup for 3 years, and thus shearing. I forget how much wool in pounds they got off the ewe, but it was a lot! They didn't say whether it was usable, either.
At the resort in Utah, which my daughter is employed, there had been several sightings of a loose Bovine. Within two hours of her Facebook post stating such, a rancher rolled up with three shepherds and a trailer full of saddled horses. He said it was his bull & had been missing for quite a while.
You never know. I'd hate to be skinning said Bovine when the rancher approached with several of his hands. Would likely be quite a tense situation.
Maybe that was a good thing the rancher showed up to claim his critter. If it would have been hunting season that Bovine may have been draped over the hood of some Commyfornian's hood with them bragging to all their buddy's about how big their deer was.
Growing up in SLC Utah almost every year they plastered some dumb Commyfornian with someones Cow and or Horse they had shot all over the local news.
If you find some feral cows, let me know The sheep are all yours.
i prefer sheeps because of my ethnicity .
I would not want to eat a feral sheep.
Jim; Good afternoon, I hope that this first day of the month/last day of the week finds you and all of your fine family well.
In ancient times, I want to say the mid '80's, I was hunting for Columbia Blacktail on one of the Gulf Islands between Vancouver Island and Washington.
My hunting partner used to live there and knew some of the locals so we had a bit of an in on some private land. The local fellow upon whose couches and floor we crashed, mentioned to my friend that the local feral sheep had been spotted recently by the outfit logging the chunk of land we'd be hunting.
There was some animated discussion regarding a couple instances where locals had attempted to eat one and found it much less than a satisfying culinary experience.
Sure enough, early the next morning as we were easing into the spot, I spied what looked like a blackberry bush moving slowly along or perhaps something in a homemade ghillie suit. Upon further examination with binos, we both spied the roughest looking unshorn, long tailed mess of a sheep one can imagine.
Even now as I type this Jim, I shake my head at how, well filthy and disheveled this thing looked.
Both of us wondered aloud just how hungry one might have to be to kill and attempt to eat it.
We also wondered if some sheep shed their wool naturally or if they just got so heavy eventually they couldn't stand.
In the back of my mind I want to say this thing looked like there were maybe patches of wool missing, but I might be totally wrong about that too Jim, as there's been a whole lot of memories made and lost since that hunt.
All the best to the OP in his quest for feral mutton for sure, though I'd love to hear if it's edible or not.
lamb vs mutton: After a sheep matures, their hormones cause the meat to get a very strong flavor. Most people don't like it. It's tied in with bone growth. There's a joint in the front leg above the hoof that's used to determine if it's lamb or mutton. If the joint can break, it's lamb. If it's ossified, it's mutton.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
Stormin Norman; Good evening or near enough to it for us both, I hope the day went acceptably and you're well.
Regarding hunting feral cattle, somewhere in the back of my memory there was an article in a magazine I read about feral Herefords on an island in Alaska.
Apparently they went feral quite quickly, or at least that's how I'm remembering it.
When I used to move cattle for my rancher buddy, another chap had picked up a few cattle from up in the Cariboo Chilcotin that obviously weren't used to people, horses or for sure being herded.
That was an interesting and frustrating day to say the least and they were theoretically "tame" cattle.
Apparently there's a small herd of feral llamas somewhere in MT. Several years ago, it was all over the web about a NY hunter who shot one for an elk. He didn't do anything illegal but he wasted an expensive tag...and his dignity.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.
If you find some feral cows, let me know The sheep are all yours.
Got a freezer full of black angus range beef right now. Toughest damn cow I ever have eaten. About gotta boil it to chew it.
900 lb feral fence busting heifer my buddy had to put down. Couldn't get it within a mile of a trailer to send off for dog food, so he shot it and called me. If I didn't want it he was gonna drag her off to the bone holler.
Actually it's not bad, tastes great, just a bit tough because it was never finished out. But if it wasn't free I'd have never fooled with it. Talk about LEAN beef. Got a bunch yet to grind up for burger and I had to buy fat to add to it. Feral cattle don't make juicy tender steaks.
I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children may live in peace. ~~ Thomas Paine
Have some huge feral billy goats that roam thru our lease sometimes. Have never wanted to shoot one even though the land owner says to. Don't want to get caught up in a dispute with a neighbor who decides to claim them.
" It ain't dead.As long as there's one cowboy taking care of one cow,it ain't dead ! " Monte Walsh
If you find some feral cows, let me know The sheep are all yours.
Got a freezer full of black angus range beef right now. Toughest damn cow I ever have eaten. About gotta boil it to chew it.
900 lb feral fence busting heifer my buddy had to put down. Couldn't get it within a mile of a trailer to send off for dog food, so he shot it and called me. If I didn't want it he was gonna drag her off to the bone holler.
Actually it's not bad, tastes great, just a bit tough because it was never finished out. But if it wasn't free I'd have never fooled with it. Talk about LEAN beef. Got a bunch yet to grind up for burger and I had to buy fat to add to it. Feral cattle don't make juicy tender steaks.
Ever heard of stress and adrenaline? Run them for a while and the meat gets really tough. Chase an elk over a couple ridges and it'll be the same way. It takes a while for them to settle down and for the adrenaline and increased lactic acid to work it's way out of the meat.
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell
It's not over when you lose. It's over when you quit.