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Oh no, target bullets for hunting. Armchair quarterbacks speak up. Terrible.

Ha!

And tell Scenarshooter that Scenars won’t kill critters. After all they be target bullets.

Dead critters don’t lie, don’t complain, either. Common sense needs to rule. Every bullet has design parameters, strengths and weaknesses.

DF

Keep in mind it is discontinued along with all the other Enduron powders.


For me RL 26 works well and H4350.
Also rl 16.

I think they’ve changed the status from “discontinued” to “out of stock,” with the intent to produce them again when able.

I have 3lbs of 4451. That’s enough to load all 500 of the 147’s that I bought. When the 4451 is gone, these 147’s will be gone. By then I will switch to use up another powder.

That is great news. I liked those powders.

I have killed enough deer with the 147, to make the statement that it works well on deer to past 400 yards. I load it over Reloder 26, for 2745 fps and incredible accuracy from my Remington/Criterion setup. They shot well with other powders, but 26 wins the speed race. I pushed it to over 2800, but settled on this load to leave no doubt about using it in hot weather. This is from a 24-inch barrel.

I did the same with 26. The 147 is sound at those speeds for me.

Ya’ll comfortable shooting medium sized fur with the 147 match bullet?

Any no-go’s beyond a specific distance?

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Yep, including large-sized fur like moose and elk.

Nope, they get better with distance.

I’ve caught some in decent sized pigs, but it really didn’t matter, as they were DRT.

John

Good thing the numerous elk that have been shot with my .264 Win Mag with the 147 at around 3100 didn’t know that.

The more I think about, the 147/143 ELD bullets (and some 140's I haven't hunted with yet) make the most sense for the 6.5 CM platform. If wanting to drive mono's, there's plenty of other options to drive them much harder where mono's excel at. For a lightweight, lower recoil rifle it's hard to beat the 6.5 CM/147 combo.

I agree. I’m under 3100 fps with the 147 in the .264 WM. It’s just where the most accurate load was.


500 yards

used the 123 gr ELD-M Grendel (factory ammo) exclusively for 6 seasons on Alberta big game, 20 animals, 7-species, 10-420 yards, average shot distance around 160-165, average recovery distance ~10 yards, you'll not burn 30 grains of powder better imo, a few black bears, young bull moose, bighorn sheep, mule deer, bunch of whitetails, antelope and wolf...this past season was 5 animals between me and the kids, every single one was a drt, (2)100 yards, 183, 200, 250, lost a ton of meat on the front ends from excessive damage lol, vicious little bastard, eld-m's with lots of sd for impact velocity ranges are as deadly as they come, I get longer recoveries from .270's and .270 wsm's with 140 gr accubonds...the magic formula is not well understood

now if the little 123 does that at 2400 fps launches then imagine the 147 can handle much greater launch speeds and dump quite a bit more work in critters while still going more than deep enough with all the tail end of that bullet still hanging on while the front end comes apart and does the good stuff

if I shot a 6.5 manbun, and it liked 140 gr eld-m match factory white box?...then that's all I'd shoot and think nothing of it, the 147 would be second choice but from a sleeper standpoint on price/availability and future proofness....the 140 white box eld-m match would be the hot ticket for everything, reloading became optional long ago if you choose wisely