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Originally Posted by mark shubert
While we're at it, let's restrict welfare back to those who TRULY need it.
Without the freebies, our own citizens would have to work for a living.

Oh yeah!

If you have money for booze, cigarettes, tattoos and 6 pit bulls, you don't need free housing, food stamps or free healthcare.

You need a job!


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Originally Posted by greydog
Who would have thought that we, Americans, would be embracing the concept of a Berlin Wall on American soil?


Somewhat disingenuous of you, it is not to split a nation...it is to protect a nation.


But you knew that didn't you.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Originally Posted by Ringman
Originally Posted by CashisKing
If america kicked out all the wets... and closed the border...

Groceries would triple in price... and homes would double.

Wets do the work... that Welfare recipients refuse to do.

It is incredible... that no one else sees this.


How did USA do it before the Wets? When I was a kid we worked and got money. Some do gooder politician decided that was not good for the kids.

When you were a kid... "Reparation Money" to the many many many generations of the ancestors of former slaves... wasn't even a thought.

"Reparation Money" will be a cornerstone of the 2024 Presidential Election...

"Reparation Money" WILL PASS CONGRESS IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

Welfare recipients have needs... Just like you...


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Study the Birth Rate Charts in America...

White people will fall below other races in 10-20 years...


If you are not actively engaging EVERY enemy you encounter... you are allowing another to fight for you... and that is cowardice... plain and simple.



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Originally Posted by CashisKing
Study the Birth Rate Charts in America...

White people will fall below other races in 10-20 years...


Probably because they are out working instead of sitting at home sucking on coffee and fucking the days away.


These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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Re-elect Trump?


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Stop paying people benefits, enforce jail/prison time for breaking into our country, and forcibly deport as many who are here illegally as possible.

They won’t be motivated to cross if we stop mating them to come!!!!!

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Take a lesson from the Berlin Wall. That seemed to deter even the most motivated transgressors.


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Take war to the cartel.


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A good start would be to guarantee the farmers and ranchers along the border the right to use deadly force to protect their lives and property, with immunity from all legal and civil repercussions.

I once believed that a piece of paper called the US Constitution already gave citizens that right...

... I guess I was wrong about that.


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A de-militarized zone all along the border, similar to that between North and South Korea. With military patrolling our side having "shoot to kill" rules of engagement. Any invaders who survived initial contact should be treated as POWs.


The biggest problem our country has is not systemic racism, it's systemic stupidity.
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Have the military buy as much property along the border as possible. Close down most all the other military bases in the US and move almost all the Army and Air force people to these bases. Then put old used cargo containers along the undefended border as high as they can stack them. Higher the better to stop people from climbing them. Put a lot of razer wire around them. Then put underground sensors all along the border to pick up any tunneling. Gather all make container double width. Gather up all the stray dogs as possible, especially pit bulls, German Shepards, and that type of dog. Or put wolves in there in between these walls. Don't feed them very much or often. Then stop all trade with Mexico unless they allow us to computerize all their birth and death records, their criminal records, driving records, and health records. That way if someone wants to come to the US, they apply legally, the US asks for their records, and they are approved or denied, then put on a waiting list. Only allow so many a year to enter. Then deport ALL in the US illegally. No plane tickets, but bus tickets for the long ride home. Also, help Mexico secure their own southern border to keep Central and South Americas out.

Eisenhower in 1953 or 54, deported over 1 million illegals by busing them 200 miles into Mexico and letting them out. Our unemployment rate dropped from about 7% to about 5% almost immediately. He said he wanted his troops returning from Korea to be able to get jobs.

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At this point cut my income tax in half and I will gladly pay more for guacamole.

We are going to pay it on the front side through earnings or the back side through consumption.

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Originally Posted by reivertom
I'd finish the wall, and every one of the state's National Guard would have to patrol it several weeks a year for training to help the Border Patrol. The mass deportations would commence day one. It will be cheaper to get them home than to keep them.

This is already (kinda, sorta) being done. Gov. Abbott has ordered the Nat'l Guard (state) to place concertina wire along the border. Sec'y Mayorkas has ordered CBP (federal) to cut the wire to allow migrants through. Gov. Abbott sued the federal government and won. CBP no longer "cuts" the wire. They simply raise the wire or cover it to allow migrants to come through!

Biden/Mayorkas have literally castrated ICE. ICE needs to be turned loose to do their job.
ANY town, city, county, state, area that claims to be a "Sanctuary" needs to have ALL federal funding pulled and pay a daily fine of $10K per illegal until ALL illegals have been removed!

I would also like to reiterate this!
There is NO SUCH THING as an anchor baby!
Go back and check the laws!
A child born to "non citizens" on American soil "IS NOT" an American citizen. They are simply a citizen of the mother's country of origin.

So much of what is being allowed on our border is the liberal "rule by precedent", not by law.

Rant over!
Thank you for listening!

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Make possession of any clearly defined quantity of Schedule I, II, and III drugs that would meet a clearly defined "intent to distribute" threshold a capital crime with mandatory death penalty.

Make the employment of any undocumented aliens a felony with penalties that double for each subsequent conviction and convictions that must be served consecutively.

1 year and $10,000 for the first conviction.
2 years and $20,000 for the second conviction. A total of 3 years and $30,000.
4 years and $40,000 for the third conviction. A total of 7 years and $70,000.
8 years and $80,000 for the fourth conviction. A total of 15 years and $150,000.
16 years and $160,000 for the fifth conviction. A tot of 31 years and $310,000.
32 years and $320,000 for the sixth conviction. A total of 63 years and $630,000.

Not many people are going to employ illegals if doing so and getting caught will result in a felony conviction and harsh mandatory sentencing guidelines.

Make first offense undocumented entry into the U.S. a felony, it is currently a misdemeanor.

Tell Mexico that if they don't deal with the drug cartels, we will. Army Delta and Navy Seals need keep their edge.

Every single year more people in the U.S. die from opioid overdoses than all of the U.S. military deaths during the Vietnam War. If we really cared about this issue we would do something about it. Drug use is a choice and every drug user who buys his/her drugs on the street doesn't have any way of knowing what they're actually buying. Just another form of Russian Roulette.

Introducing Bull Sharks into the Rio Grande might cut down on the swimmers.

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Shut down Mexico's entire economy until they stop the illegals on their side of the border.

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Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by GreggH
Easily. Charge any person in charge or contributs money to NGOs that funds illegal immigration with felony human trafficking. Mandatory 25 years.
They aren’t coming here on their own with smart phones and rides to our border on their own.

GreggH



Yep.

18 months imprisoned on a work farm for every illegal caught.
Additionally, after serving their sentence, they earn $50/day until they
work off the transportation costs to fly them back to Southern Mexico.
To be dropped off on the tarmac and left standing.


$5000 fine for every illegal caught employed. Fines double with every incident.
Same jail time for the employer as for the illegal on the third offense.

6 months rent worth of fines for every illegal renter in a land lords unit.

No pleas, no reduced charges.


Generous and simple work programs allowing visas, employer has liability for
the people he keeps employed.
That has pitfalls, but if someone wants to bring in cheap labor he should face
some of the risks he imposes on his neighbors.



I don't consider any of that as being very harsh, pretty lenient actually.


They would have no reason to come here, no work no housing, no freebies.
The ones coming in from over seas would be facing a long time busting their
butt, only to end up standing on blacktop in Southern Mexico. Penniless.
Mexico would be facing huge crowds of broke folks in their country,
causing them untold problems.

The people making money off them would be facing losses to hire them.

Those who bring them in to work would be forced to make sure they employed
good people.



We wouldn't have to worry so much about that border.
The folks bring them wouldn't, they wouldn't want to come.
Mexico would suddenly not want to let their country be the pipeline to ours.
This has a lot of promise. Killing them is not the answer but removing the reward for invading will make people want to stay home. I would also add that the many people supporting the invasion and financing it should be brought up on treason charges and prosecuted accordingly. This is a planned and coordinated invasion for the purpose of destroying America. Fences must be built and patrolled. Gangs and cartels trafficking in people and drugs should be punished harshly. The Biden Administration must be tried for treason and most of our government officials prisoned or fined and fired as well as most of congress. Both parties. McCarthy isn't the only RINO up there pissing in the tent.

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Stop sending money to Ukraine and start sending illegal immigrants?

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I know a guy that could help

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I wonder how many of those illegals who are experiencing their first cold Chicago or New York City winter are doing?

Being a sanctuary city is all fun and games until you get over run with illegals and have to raise taxes on citizens to pay for their care and maintenance, food, shelter, healthcare, etc.

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