Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles A buttstock shell holder that works!

I know this is the hunting rifle forum but I’m posting here for traffic. I picked up a really nice and functional handmade leather buttstock shell holder. I know how everyone loves to bitch about them and complain about how they lose ammo, don’t fit right, tarnish brass and are generally worthless. Well I found this guy who hand stitches them himself and sells them off his facebook page. They look very nice, are built well and definitely don’t lose or tarnish your brass cartridges. I’ve had nylon ones, neoprene ones and leather ones from Galco and other name brands. This one is better than any of them by far. I suck at posting pics so I’ll leave his info and you can check out his page. I got a plain black leather one for my Ruger 77, 35 Whelen and I’m very happy with it. And I’d rather give my money to the little guy making a good product with his hands rather than a big company spitting out some machine built product by the thousands.

Seymour Leather Craft Custom Leather Goods
Owner: Ed Seymour. (607)422-6551
www.facebook.com/seymourleathercraft

bubba buddies, unite!......

Opinions vary depending upon your style of hunting. If you’re sitting in a blind all day or hunting from the truck I suppose you wouldn’t have a need. However the majority of my hunting is following a set of tracks or still hunting for a few miles so it’s nice to have an extra few shells handy. Accessible on the buttstock is better than fumbling through your pockets or pack looking for them.

That'll tarnish brass just like any leather cartridge holder will. Just get a little moisture trapped in there and don't pull the cartridges out, and they'll tarnish just like ever other cartridge holder. If the rounds aren't inside a zippered pouch, there is a good chance you'll lose some eventually. Leather will expand and contract with changes in temp, and will eventually stretch. It isn't immune to any of the problems you mentioned in your OP.

However, if your happy that's all that really matters.

Much snugger than any other leather production one I’ve had and certainly much better than any synthetic fabric made. We’ll see on the tarnishing in time I guess.

Not a buttstock carrier but have carried one of these on my belt for years.

Belt carrier

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Thank you for posting.

Do you happen to have an email address for them? Don't have Facebook.

If you don’t like it move on. Don’t believe anyone asked your opinions. Just sharing for those interested

Nope but you could probably fire him a text.

Been using Uncle Mikes (there are other manufactures) butstock shell holds for a long time. Use the sling stud to hold them in place. They last a long time, when it wears out, throw it away and get another. Pretty cheap.

My rifles all carry at least three rounds and extra's are carried in a jacket pocket. I don't care for the looks of those elastic bands around the butt stock. Anyway if it takes more than even two shots the animal is likely gone anyway!

There are two ways to quickly ruin the balance of a hunting rifle:
No. 1…attach a suppressor
No. 2…attach a buttstock ammo carrier

I can’t understand why anyone would put a butt carrier on a hunting rifle. Usually two shots and the chances are it is done or gone.
The suppressor I can understand for range use.

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Use one on a lot of my rifles, I like having 9 rounds right on the gun.
Grab my rifle, I've got ammo.


Seeing how it aggravates so many, and reading the comments?
Makes me like them more.



Upset balance?


M7 is butt heavy from the factory.
Tikka muzzle light.
It might affect them noticeably, never used one on either.
It's not noticeable on guns reasonably balanced to begin with.

Even have a sling with loops.
Quickly decided that weight flopping around wasn't for me.

Agreed. Some might not like it or find it useful with their particular style of hunting. If I’m sitting on a stump for the day I get it. However I prefer to track or still hunt. I might cover ten to fifteen miles and might get a crack at more than one deer. Having four in the rifle and another five or so on the buttsock makes sense. I don’t see the issue with balance either especially when I’m ripping off a shot through the irons at fifteen to twenty yards within a second or two at a bumped deer.
Not to mention that my intention is to get a decent guy a little extra attention about his product that he’s getting going and that he makes by hand. Like I said, I appreciate something that’s quality, hand made by the little guy who takes the time and care and puts some pride into their work rather than some generic product that’s puked out by some machine every ten seconds. If the folks who came on here to bitch about it can’t get that through their thick skulls they’re just letting their ignorance and true character shine through.

Mine hold five, more than I need, keep 10 in my pocket for the hell of it. I don’t like the way they look either, but many have them on their rifles.

Given the diversity of this site, anything that anyone posts is likely to attract a position counter to the OP's. Most of the time the counterpoints are presented with an explanation as to why, 'cause everyone is entitled to express their opinions. What other people think is good to hear, otherwise you could become myopic, but that doesn't mean that their comments are useful to you and your situation.

I like the elastic buttstock cartridge carriers, but I mostly use them to quietly carry cartridges in the right side pocket of my camo-orange vests. They are my preferred means to quietly carry extra cartridges, but I can't remember the last time that I needed any of those cartridges. The only rifles that I have them installed on at this time are Ruger American Predators and on those rifles I use the Beartooth comb riser style for the comb riser attribute, leaving the cartrdige loops empty.

You make a great point 260.


It's good to offer a counter, in a respectful way.


One of the biggest things I've learned from the 'Fire, and find most interesting,
is how different things are.


Including results with similar items.

You and I posted differing opinions in the 6.5x55 thread.
My results with 140gr bullets were not good. Downright bad.
120s are the cat's meow. For us.

You like 140s or 160s. Getting results you like, obviously.


I've read of guys shooting Sierra 165 BTHPs out of 300 mags and loving them.
Pass through, say it's a tough bullet. Recommend it for elk.

I've killed numerous deer with that bullet from a 20" 308.
And it's been the most dramatic thing I've ever killed deer with.
Including early BTs out of 7mm and 300 mags.

Double fist exits, often seeing a cloud of hair and gore.
Like the instant kills, hate losing front ends.
Gave up on it.


Here is where so many go off the rails.

I have no way of knowing why others have different results.
Shot placement is a big thing, but not how most wanna argue.
It's not necessarily about ability, like they like to puff up and claim.
Shooting shoulders, ribs, nervous system...rear end?
Same gun, load, different placement, can have much different results.

It's educational to try to understand why others have different results,
instead of claiming my experience is somehow more valid and implying
someone else is lying, or just stupid. I bet there will be numerous guys never
get this far down, they will be searching the mentioned thread, expecting to
find where we were duking it out!

I like my bubba buddies. I really like the name bubba buddy, I think Ingwe coined the term.

They work for me, i appreciate they may not work for others. I have even started making my own out of bits of leather from various African animals.

The question of need always comes up in these conversations, that need as in all things in free country should be determined by the individual who is spending the fruits of their labours.

I have found need on rare occasions to have those extra rounds close at hand. I also like using the bubba buddy with some closed cell foam to add some height to a cheek piece when needed.

To each their own. May your 2024 involve lots of shooting hunting and good times.

I would shoot lighter/shorter component bullets in my 6.5x55s, but they all have long throats that don't sync well with shorter bullets. I really like the 130 grain ABs in the 6.5 CM, 256 Newton, 260 REM, and 6.5-284, but none of them was throated to accommodate the long 156/160 grain bullets that were commonly used in the 6.5x55. I shot most of my plains game in Botswana with 156 grain Norma factory loads, the load recommend by my outfitter 'cause he felt that it was effective and it was the only factory loaded heavy bullet for the 6.5x55 that was regularly available both here and there.

I’ve got 1 box of Herters 160gr RN I’d like to try. But it’s kinda dumb to. If I shoot 30, that leaves enough to hunt and zero a few years at best. Then where in the heck do you buy more. Been pondering it, they were probably made with Swede performance in mind. Unlike some that were made thinking more toward 264.

I don't care for the cartridge keepers on the stock, seems like the most inconvenient place to carry them and changes the balance, but I've worn or carried a belt slide for years. I have a Dick Murray for .300WM and .375 H&H and another similar to the link for .308 sized cartridges. It either goes on the belt or in my pocket.

Leather Belt Cartridge Slide

As it has been suggested, it's an individual thing. In choosing to read a thread like this it's usually because of an interest in the subject - not to argue and debate, but because we may pick up on something that's helpful and practical. I shoot quite a few big game single-shot rifles and I've tried various procedures for loading a second round if ever needed - rarely ever needed except in paying the insurance. But I now use buttstock cartridge holders, but never full. 2 to 4 is ever loaded plus one in the chamber. Then I may have 3 or 4 more in a jacket pocket. The secret - if it can be called that- to using a single-shot rifle is making the first shot count! Then, like in everything else, practice using a cartridge holder on the stock (or in a belt - I have that also) until it becomes second nature!

Bob
www.bigbores.ca

If I'm going to carry something I don't particularily like - and I do that sometimes - on the butt of a rifle, I just cut down the factory plastic shell holders and tape them on, fill them with cartridges (4-5, depending on the rifle), and run a bit of electrical tape over those for secure retention, leaving a tab end for quick removal. It's cheap and ugly too.....

The only maybe downside other than weight/config changes, is tape residue on stock and sometimes cartridges, but that's not a problem for me - probably will be for some with more anal tendancies, using "nice" guns. Never found the tape residue on the cartridges, if any, to cause a problem when firing.

Pretty seldom I ever have to take any off the butt to actually shoot. I can recall twice in 50+ years....and going to pocket or pack once other. Recharging the magazine after the game is down, or removal once the trip is over is about it. If I was really into it, I would prefer a closed device to keep cartridges moisture and debris free, with positive retention. I've lost more live cartridges from elastic or leather shell holders on the butt, than I have ever fetched & fired in the field. Phooey on that.

I've often thought that a recessed "patch-box" in the stock with positive catch sliding or hinged cover, holding several cartridges would be a good thing. Dunno if there would be a market for it. Or how much it would affect stock integrity. Probably be OK on composition molded or laid up stocks I would think.

las: check out the Brockman Cartridge Trap. It might be similar to what you mentioned above

My truck gun is a 223 Kimber Montana and I have one of those elastic shell holders on it. The thought is that when I need the gun it is usually for an unforeseen event/target of opportunity and I do not want to be digging into a box of ammo to go with the rifle, I just want to grab the rifle with ammo attached and can load the rifle while moving on/to the target.

Of course when I have the AR15 in the truck a loaded magazine beside the rifle give me the same easy access to ammo when grabbing the rifle.

I have a rifle with a trap door in the but plate. It will hold 3 rounds the rifle holds 4. The first shot determines everything