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Thanks guys. I have other rifles, in 220 swift, 22/250, and 240 weatherby that I can shoot 55-80 or so grain bullets if I want. I’m a “speed” guy and on this rifle I don’t give a rats ass if along heavier bullet will drop less at 500 yards. Cause 99.9% of my shots are under 300 yards, and probably 80% are under 200 yards. I’m talking called coyotes. I know that I can kill them at those ranges with a variety of cartridges, I have done so. I want a fast accurate swift in this build. Guess I’ll go with 1:12”. Let’s move on.
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I can relate to "The Need For Speed". It great for a " point and shoot" rifle, hold on the hair and shoot.
No need or TIME to range, read your chart, dial and shoot.
Some critters just won't wait to die. Your coyote will be down and dead before they fire a shot.
Let us know how your new SWIFT shoots.
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Unless you are building a real Benchrest rifle, they're is no reason to every own a 22 with a 1: 14 twist. There is NO upside
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Thanks guys. I have other rifles, in 220 swift, 22/250, and 240 weatherby that I can shoot 55-80 or so grain bullets if I want. I’m a “speed” guy and on this rifle I don’t give a rats ass if along heavier bullet will drop less at 500 yards. Cause 99.9% of my shots are under 300 yards, and probably 80% are under 200 yards. I’m talking called coyotes. I know that I can kill them at those ranges with a variety of cartridges, I have done so. I want a fast accurate swift in this build. Guess I’ll go with 1:12”. Let’s move on. ^^ This is the voice of a varmint hunter. Not a long range gong ringer. They had it right decades before anyone heard about BC and fast twist barrels. Speed plus a light soft varmint bullet kills best with no holdover on the majority of varmint encounters. Especially when calling in calm conditions. I too would build a 12 T 222 Rem right through to the Swift.
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I would do an 8 twist same as I'd do a 22-250
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Thanks guys. I have other rifles, in 220 swift, 22/250, and 240 weatherby that I can shoot 55-80 or so grain bullets if I want. I’m a “speed” guy and on this rifle I don’t give a rats ass if along heavier bullet will drop less at 500 yards. Cause 99.9% of my shots are under 300 yards, and probably 80% are under 200 yards. I’m talking called coyotes. I know that I can kill them at those ranges with a variety of cartridges, I have done so. I want a fast accurate swift in this build. Guess I’ll go with 1:12”. Let’s move on. I had a 1-12” twist Douglas Premium barrel put on my Ruger M77V a couple years back. Had it crowned at 24” instead of 26” to make it a bit handier. It is my go-to coyote and chuck rifle. I shot some 50 grain Varmageddons and 50 grain Vmax in it when I first got it. They shot excellent. I have shot as heavy as 62 grain bullets as well but decided on the 55 grain Nosler BT as my all around. For your intended purpose, a 1-12” twist is plenty fast enough and will work perfectly. I couldn’t be happier with mine!
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Within 4 posts, the original question is derailed. Asking specifically about which twist for a 50 grain bullet and out come the fast twisters singing praise to the heavy bullets and fast twist.
Go for a 12 and continue with your build. Forget heavy bullets and fast twist if the 50 grain bullet is your preference…
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Within 4 posts, the original question is derailed. Asking specifically about which twist for a 50 grain bullet and out come the fast twisters singing praise to the heavy bullets and fast twist.
Go for a 12 and continue with your build. Forget heavy bullets and fast twist if the 50 grain bullet is your preference… Yep, 50 grainers at 4000 fps. I bet that will explode a crow or a rabbit.
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Starting velocity,isn't impact velocity and atmospherics matter. Hint.
1-7" for 88's. Hint.
Pardon my shooting it all and then some. Hint..............
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Spoken like a true gong ringer.
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Within 4 posts, the original question is derailed. Asking specifically about which twist for a 50 grain bullet and out come the fast twisters singing praise to the heavy bullets and fast twist.
Go for a 12 and continue with your build. Forget heavy bullets and fast twist if the 50 grain bullet is your preference… Thanks guys. As stated, I was looking for 50 grain accuracy out to 300 or so yards. It’s is “barreled” with a 26”, 1:12 twist. Getting stock made so will be couple months before I get to shoot it. I have prepped some new Norma brass and will load up some with various powders and bullets to see what works best. It should be a coyotes nightmare.
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Within 4 posts, the original question is derailed. Asking specifically about which twist for a 50 grain bullet and out come the fast twisters singing praise to the heavy bullets and fast twist.
Go for a 12 and continue with your build. Forget heavy bullets and fast twist if the 50 grain bullet is your preference… Thanks guys. As stated, I was looking for 50 grain accuracy out to 300 or so yards. It’s is “barreled” with a 26”, 1:12 twist. Getting stock made so will be couple months before I get to shoot it. I have prepped some new Norma brass and will load up some with various powders and bullets to see what works best. It should be a coyotes nightmare. It will be, good for you for sticking with what you want and what will work. You won’t be disappointed…
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Within 4 posts, the original question is derailed. Asking specifically about which twist for a 50 grain bullet and out come the fast twisters singing praise to the heavy bullets and fast twist.
Go for a 12 and continue with your build. Forget heavy bullets and fast twist if the 50 grain bullet is your preference… Lol.... I really wanted to post on this thread as I have 2 / 220 swifts.... but one has 1/8 twist and the other is a 1/7.7 twist. So I kept my yapper shut....
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I have 2 220 Swift's, Love them both. 1 is a 1-14" twist the other a 1-7 1/2" twist, for the OP's uses there is nothing wrong with a 1-14"twist, but a 1-12" will be awesome. For my rifles shooting 50-55gr bullets W760 has always worked the best for me. Good choice with the Norma brass
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Within 4 posts, the original question is derailed. Asking specifically about which twist for a 50 grain bullet and out come the fast twisters singing praise to the heavy bullets and fast twist.
Go for a 12 and continue with your build. Forget heavy bullets and fast twist if the 50 grain bullet is your preference… Fair enough. Derailment always seems to have a twist rate involved. If I build a rifle, I don't build it necessarily around a bullet weight but the game/varmint I'm gonna primarily shoot with it. It doesn't take heavy, high bc to kill varmints. A 50 grain pill is an excellent choice. However, remember that your building a custom rifle. I think for versatility, you'll love the 1:8. It will open many doors for various bullets and loads.
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Within 4 posts, the original question is derailed. Asking specifically about which twist for a 50 grain bullet and out come the fast twisters singing praise to the heavy bullets and fast twist.
Go for a 12 and continue with your build. Forget heavy bullets and fast twist if the 50 grain bullet is your preference… Fair enough. Derailment always seems to have a twist rate involved. If I build a rifle, I don't build it necessarily around a bullet weight but the game/varmint I'm gonna primarily shoot with it. It doesn't take heavy, high bc to kill varmints. A 50 grain pill is an excellent choice. However, remember that your building a custom rifle. I think for versatility, you'll love the 1:8. It will open many doors for various bullets and loads. I already did this years ago...
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If shooting BR bullets is your thing the slow twists work. My one and only 220Swift was a pre-64 Winchester with the 14 twist. It would not even stabilize 52 grain AMAX bullets. I was relegated to 40 grain tipped bullets or 50-52 grain flat base BR bullets. Wrong rifle for those bullets. Down the road it went.
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If shooting BR bullets is your thing the slow twists work. My one and only 220Swift was a pre-64 Winchester with the 14 twist. It would not even stabilize 52 grain AMAX bullets. I was relegated to 40 grain tipped bullets or 50-52 grain flat base BR bullets. Wrong rifle for those bullets. Down the road it went. I have a 220 Swift Super Grade made in 1950 that shoots 50 grain bullets as well as I can shoot it…
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