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Great book! IIRC one of the kids was kidnapped not too far from where we hunt.

I always figured River Cane, if the Lance’s were truly 14 foot long.

Herman Lehmann was taken over by Loyal Valley/ Cherry Springs. Adolph Korn was taken over by Castell on the Llano river. And Rudolph Fischer was taken over toward Tivy Ranch SW oF Fredericksburg. Oops! The Smith boys were taken over east of Boerne. 🤣. Somwhere around Spring Branch maybe???

The Comanche were horsemen first class, and what I've read about them indicates they were fearsome with their bows---even on horseback and on the move. They could fire an arrow at you and have two more in the air before the first one hit you. And hit you, they could!

Even more amazing with the short little stubby bows they used.
Not to mention that they were accurate even while on a fast moving mustang.

I went back and looked at the book. it was Korn I was thinking of. We have a lease pretty close to Castell.

On the bois d'arc-My Bohunk F-I-L said they make great fenceposts if you get them green.

I'm going to re-read that book as I haven't read it in years. That boy on the cover standing up looks a lot like my son did at that age and the first time I read it I had a dream about my boy being kidnapped. (he's 18 now and I can't get anyone to take him if I wanted them to )

LOL.

I have to read that...placed an order just now. That'll make a nice addition to my nephew's bookshelf down on the San Saba ranch.

That boy on the cover seated is Temple Friend from Legion Creek in Llano county.

An interesting aspect of the book is the telling of how tough life was on the German settlers. Most of them were barely getting by and living in squalor. So for those young males who got taken by the plains Indians--assuming they survived and were accepted as peers by the tribe, life because an adventure that was better than just scratching by as a white settler.

It's not that difficult to understand why a young man would want to stay once he had gone feral and left the drudgery of the "white world" behind.

Apparently, Korn never did adjust to the white world again. Herman Lehmann more or less spent his life with one foot in each world. But inside I think he always considered himself an Indian.

On the one hand, I find it difficult to comprehend---or imagine might be the better word.

On the other hand, yeah, I can definitely see that.

It's hard to imagine what it was like to be in the world in those days and how it looked through those peoples' eyes.

For Lehmann yes. He really would have rather stayed with the Indians. But it was Quanah Parker that told him he should go and see his mother, and go back to his people.

Lehmann did open a dance hall at Cherry Springs.

I always thought they use the long stem from the bloom of a type of century-type cactus that you see growing wild in the hill country and west Texas. They are straight and long we made spears of them when we were kids.

Those are what I was referring to Rog. Sotols. They ate the body of the plant too. After cutting off all the leaves. Very similar to a yucca. They are still a few that grow here in the southern part of the county. They cooked them in the big pits with hot rocks. Chewedand sucked out the flesh. Then they spit out the coarse fibers in a ball. They still find these “cuds" as they call them in cliff shelters out further west.

Scott Zesch is my wife’s cousin, he has two other books too, his dad is the great western artist , does the old cowboy carving’s , Gene Zesch, a lot of history around Mason.

Yeah!! Saw his other two books! Cool!

I used to love going there!

That, Crider's in Hunt, and the Caberet in Bandera were on my circuit of dance halls.

Vs.

I saw that Comanche helicopter at the Fort Rucker museum in September. Very cool. Another one I’d never heard about was a Blackhawk that came from the factory armed and loaded for bear.

It is a great museum!