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sound like the liberals calling people racist. that's the only game you got calling somebody names and accusing them of things that you haven't got a clue about.
looks to me a lot from the past Little Ricky's got his own issues at home plenty of court cases involving him there in Albuquerque so one might want to be a bit careful what you mild on the internet about others.
and then what about all the tax issues for poor Johnny boy what about gray bull precision?? A few more and IdiotHoltons going to pass out. more false accusations by you not surprised though. I've read a good part of this thread and you started out in this and another thread as reasonable person and it's a night wears on you have become your normal [bleep] self so you tell me who's heavy in it..
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more false accusations by you not surprised though. I've read a good part of this thread and you started out in this and another thread as reasonable person and it's a night wears on you have become your normal [bleep] self so you tell me who's heavy in it.. ![[Linked Image from external-content.duckduckgo.com]](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-EwRqLMKA9Hc%2FYQRUCCToarI%2FAAAAAAAAP1U%2F3KFmZ8tMsBoIcZ-hVChg0pSzjk_A73BdACLcBGAsYHQ%2Fw400-h226%2Fron.gif&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=0483b7e988a6baf53233831746320b4d1c4ab36771f3ee175d92ee91791a40e7.gif)
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Burns is on an Epic tear.
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All that nyquil makin your eyes blurry? 😆 Editing to cover the drunkenness is never not funny ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/B65bh1DK/IMG-5196.jpg) I don’t drink. Type fast, but no alcohol. My gunsmith says its bad for the liver. How’s the roach farm goin?
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Burns is on an Epic tear. Why stop when he only sells 50 rifles a year. He’s got nothin to lose. Literally.
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Burns is on an Epic tear.
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My Orvis caps, purchased in person from an Orvis store at $30 each, were made in chiney.
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Hell! Made in Japan is likely the best way to go now. Ya can't count on the American or European companies to stay in house. Maybe it's not possible,,, for all practical purposes.
Taiwan or the Philippines not actually a bad place of mfr. considering China is last ditch IMO, but so many made there, what to do?
March,,, Nightforce,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Japan. A hell of a thing. It used to mean The J.A. Pan Company. The March website has this right on the main page: "Deon Optical Design are the creators and designers of MARCH Rifle Scopes, which are all hand-built in Japan by Japanese craftsmen using only genuine Japanese made parts to achieve the highest optical standards possible." Nothing against March or the large number of Brands that peddle rebadged LOW scopes but nobody certifies that imported optics are truthful in Country of Origin. The scopes produced there are "rebadged"? Interesting take... March scopes are made by Deon. Scopes that are made by LOW can be different brands. Of course they can be different brands. But that doesn't mean they are "rebadged".
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For me, both binos, and scopes I stay European. Swaro, Leica, Meopta. Same with mountain climbing boots if I can find them.
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Sure, consideration is given. Its not going to make or break the decision.
I'm not going to spend money on something that doesn't perform or spec out how I want.
Frankly not a lot of new production checks boxes of "What I want" so I go clean, used anyway. Moot at that point.
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I go out of my way to avoid Chinese products. I prefer US, European, or Japanese. My only Chinese made optics are a Holosun and an Avalon. There both good optics.
The Chinese are more than capable of manufacturing quality products but I try to avoid buying from a communist country that runs roughshod over human rights.
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I ALWAYS look and ALWAYS buy USA made first. European second and I only buy anything from the Pacific rim if I have to.
I sure could go for some $2.50/gal gas and a mean tweet!
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Never expected to get so many replies, but I would suspect events in recent times has caused a pause from many to support the CCP, understandably when they want to rule the world and using U$D to move the ball forward.
Appreciate the feedback, good knowledge. Thanks folks.
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[quote=FSJeeper]Preference is European and free Asian Country optics second. Communist Chinese optics support tyranny, undermine democracy, and help fund abuse of human rights.[/quote
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... recent times has caused a pause from many to support the CCP, understandably when they want to rule the world and using U$D to move the ball forward... They innovate nothing. Everything thing they know has been stolen or forced to be given to them in return for dirt cheap labor. The workers, no matter what they build, work in poor conditions. The Chinese provide no services. It is an entire economy built on manufacturing. And a little bit of every $ earned, and maybe a lot of everty $ earned, goes to building their military.
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I honestly DGAF about the human rights/working conditions etc…. They allowed their country to become what it is.
They seek to control our Govt, economy, currency and ultimately me and my family. That’s why I say Fugk China anytime there’s a viable choice.
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I try to from Chinese crap. I know I end up getting a lot of their crap.
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The european optics have my vote, but it's hard to argue with Leupold for a good all around hunting optic.
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