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I don't consider the Portuguese ones to be an American rifle. I sold all my Portuguese rifles, only 1 out 4 shot acceptable. A 30-06 Alaskan which on average would shoot 1-1.5" at 100 yards, my two supergrade's and a EW were shooting poorly (2.5-4" groups)

I ended up buying a new in the box stainless/walnut m70 in 270 win, USA made, and turned out to be a better rifle than the ones from the above.

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Nope. Model 700. 😆

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Originally Posted by 8MMX57JS
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Pure speculation on my part...but if we had accurate numbers, I'd bet the Mauser in it's various iterations is the most common rifle in the US (or world)...by quite a margin.


You might be onto something......in Canada in the last couple decades we've been flooded with a plethora of Husqvarna mauser rifles. M96, m98's,1600's and etc. I know more people with mauser's or similar variations than Enfields.
I worked briefly out on Vancouver Isl. as an illegal immigrant, LOL, back in the 70's...I never met a man that didn't own some kind of .303 Enfield...must have been genetic.


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Originally Posted by Coyote10
Nope. Model 700. 😆

Someone has to use em…. Knew I’d find the person eventually whistle


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A Winchester 70 in 30-06 would be my personal choice for the perfect classic North American big game rifle. But I'd bet the same rifle in 270 would get more votes and I wouldn't argue with anyone voted 270 over 30-06.


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I knew that'd get a rise lol.
30-06 sprg. has got to be the greatest cartridge of all time.
110s to 220s. A model 70 pre 64 in 30 gov't with a 3.5x10x40 leupold......nothing that rifle can't do. I actually like the Baco models. The Alaskan model with open sights looks like a good do all to me.

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Originally Posted by flintlocke
Originally Posted by 8MMX57JS
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Pure speculation on my part...but if we had accurate numbers, I'd bet the Mauser in it's various iterations is the most common rifle in the US (or world)...by quite a margin.


You might be onto something......in Canada in the last couple decades we've been flooded with a plethora of Husqvarna mauser rifles. M96, m98's,1600's and etc. I know more people with mauser's or similar variations than Enfields.
I worked briefly out on Vancouver Isl. as an illegal immigrant, LOL, back in the 70's...I never met a man that didn't own some kind of .303 Enfield...must have been genetic.


At that time, yes. (It was based more off affordability/cheap surplus). Today while many still own one, they aren't used as much as one would think. Especially with cost of 303 Brit ammo. On average your looking at 50-70$ a box compared to 243/30-30/308/270/30-06 which run around 35-40$ a box. It's the same case with the Swede's and the 6.5x55. At one time most people owned/used them, I've read most of them are using 308 win/30-06/9.3x62 these days.

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tough to beat a Winchester model 70 with a claw 30-06 i own a few ,but in my heated one man deer stand kinda tuff to maneuver a bolt rifle with a 22-24 inch barrel but my Ruger #1 works better then its 4-5 inches shorter . but in general hunting in all weather conditions the model 70 30-06 is to many of us the best to take any place in the world ,30-06 ammo is easy to fine ,has a 3 position safety, i never have had a model 70 freeze up but some brands do , the bolt on a model 70 comes apart easy enough to clean quickly , extraction with the claw is a benefit , model 70`s with the claw hold their value well, probably are more features that make a model 70 a reason to own one.

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Originally Posted by Coyote10
I knew that'd get a rise lol.
30-06 sprg. has got to be the greatest cartridge of all time.
110s to 220s. A model 70 pre 64 in 30 gov't with a 3.5x10x40 leupold......nothing that rifle can't do. I actually like the Baco models. The Alaskan model with open sights looks like a good do all to me.

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Yes!!!!
That rifle will do anything.

Nice bull. Jealous!

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It’s a good one. I haven’t shot it since that bull!


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Originally Posted by bluefish
Is this still the classic American big game rifle?

In its various forms it still is. The '06 might be slipping a bit in some circles but not mine. We have pre-wars, pre-64 FW's, XTR's and Stainless Classics.

A Model 70 SS All-Terrain FW '06 in its steel bedded Tupperware stock is my favorite. I added iron sights, changed to steel bottom metal and a 2.5-8x36 Leupold to finish it off.

It is being chased pretty hard by my 84L '06 Montana but is still winning.

I may get a lightweight Bansner for my favorite M70 with no bottom metal and lose a few more ounces. That would settle it.
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Originally Posted by bluefish
Is this still the classic American big game rifle?
Might be.. It certainly is one of the most versatile re: bullet weight selection..


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Originally Posted by beretzs
Originally Posted by Coyote10
Nope. Model 700. 😆

Someone has to use em…. Knew I’d find the person eventually whistle

My uncle had one, he called it his "throw away gun".. Whatever that meant.. wink wink...


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Originally Posted by beretzs
It’s a good one. I haven’t shot it since that bull!

Because you got too many got dang rifles, to chose from!! ha ha..


Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by beretzs
It’s a good one. I haven’t shot it since that bull!

Because you got too many got dang rifles, to chose from!! ha ha..

Said no American ever…. whistle


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I have a post 64 M70 in 30-06, a 1969 model if memory serves me correctly, that was my late father in laws. Those early push feeds were supposed to be junk by some standards, not this one. Still a standard bearer for accuracy, the rifle just shoots, always has. And that action in slick, slick, slick. I'd rather have a pre-64 for the cool factor, but that post 64 has never given me a single reason to fault it.


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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by bluefish
Is this still the classic American big game rifle?


The epitome of the "Rifleman's rifle". Nuff said..
Well said wink


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Originally Posted by ShadeTree
I have a post 64 M70 in 30-06, a 1969 model if memory serves me correctly, that was my late father in laws. Those early push feeds were supposed to be junk by some standards, not this one. Still a standard bearer for accuracy, the rifle just shoots, always has. And that action in slick, slick, slick. I'd rather have a pre-64 for the cool factor, but that post 64 has never given me a single reason to fault it.

Everyone I’ve ever shot they were excellent.

My elk hunting partner has a 69 300 Win. Many many bug hole groups.

They might not have been as pretty as a Pre 64 but they sure shoot great.


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I just got my M70 LH Classic back from Chad Dixon at LRI. Blueprinted and largely rebuilt. Got a factory barrel copied from Douglas. Thinking to finish this one at 23”. Decent stock from factory being reworked and trimmed and slimmed by Matt Roberts then some irons and a good blue ready for the fall stoked with NP 180s.
BTW, is the 180 grain the classic load in the classic rifle?

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