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Originally Posted by Bob_mt
Originally Posted by irfubar
Bob,
It has been several years since I went round and round with Indy, so the details aren't as clear as I would like.
But It went something like this, he is from the upper Mid-West (rust belt) worked for .gov. started a business that contracted with .gov.
Made a ton of money, lead an insulated privileged life , isolated from the concerns of the average working man.
Loves to virtue signal, poo poo's the concerns of average folks.........
Yet , his part of the country (rust belt) has decayed before his very eyes and it's not his concern because he is wealthy.
The type of boomer most like to hate these days. He got his and to hell with everyone else... buncha kook conspiracy theorist!

I will take your word on that, you have always seemed straight up.......I know you dont back down from uneasy questions, so can you address the two I asked of you?....bob

Bob,
As for the how do we fight back, you are correct it starts at the local level, but it needs to go beyond that.
We need to speak out against the narrative the left is creating, followers and weak minded individuals fall for the talking points, because they are uninformed they parrot the narrative, many like to virtue signal with the lefts talking points.
If we challenge friends and family that's a start, or we could use social media.
For example what i post here will reach 100 times as many people or more than I have contact with at any given time.
Call out the idiotic ideas for what they are! Shut down the virtue signaling! Make them feel foolish for being the fools they are!
Now as for Jim, I can't really speak for him.
I can speak to what appears to be a double standard on my part for not calling him out.
I am taking in the bigger picture with Jim for context. He is on the right side of the issue 99% of the time.
My guess would be he was simply provoking thought, he has a cryptic and witty way of expressing his opinions. He regularly uses absurdity to display absurdity.
Taking Jim at face value is a mistake, he has contemplated these issue much more deeply than most individuals.

Indy on the other hand is a very stereotypical entitled boomer that made money off of the system, a sheep of a different sort.


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PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha

Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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On conservatives: just the very nature of being conservative makes complete agreement with any other individual highly improbable and more likely impossible. There are some fellows here I agree with almost all the time, but after a long enough period and enough posts read I will run across something that leaves me thinking they must have rocks in their heads. I'm sure it goes both ways, too. The differences between those I have respect for and those I detest is based on my own detection of principle and intellectual honesty with a dash of humility tossed in.

On non-conservatives: mostly they just suck.


Don't be the darkness.

America will perish while those who should be standing guard are satisfying their lusts.


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We have recently discovered that some of the most dangerous among us are the pseudo conservative...
The ones that pretend to be conservative but are simply pandering to true conservatives for personal gain.
Think John McCain, Mitt Romney etc.... Trump has flushed them out of the woodwork, tremendous value in that .
We have many pseudo conservatives here at the campfire, they should be called out at every opportunity!


Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha

Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by irfubar
We have recently discovered that some of the most dangerous among us are the pseudo conservative...
The ones that pretend to be conservative but are simply pandering to true conservatives for personal gain.
Think John McCain, Mitt Romney etc.... Trump has flushed them out of the woodwork, tremendous value in that .
We have many pseudo conservatives here at the campfire, they should be called out at every opportunity!

thanks for the reply.....we are in complete agreement .....I do feel that based on history on several super powers down through time we are on a course that can be slowed down, but not stopped.....we are simply getting out numbered as time goes on.

while the usa will go on , I feel we are not going to have the prominence we have enjoyed for so long....the [bleep] of it is it seems like we are going the way of uk etc. ...bob

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Originally Posted by Bob_mt
Originally Posted by irfubar
We have recently discovered that some of the most dangerous among us are the pseudo conservative...
The ones that pretend to be conservative but are simply pandering to true conservatives for personal gain.
Think John McCain, Mitt Romney etc.... Trump has flushed them out of the woodwork, tremendous value in that .
We have many pseudo conservatives here at the campfire, they should be called out at every opportunity!

thanks for the reply.....we are in complete agreement .....I do feel that based on history on several super powers down through time we are on a course that can be slowed down, but not stopped.....we are simply getting out numbered as time goes on.

while the usa will go on , I feel we are not going to have the prominence we have enjoyed for so long....the [bleep] of it is it seems like we are going the way of uk etc. ...bob
Interesting comparison with the UK and us. I think you are spot on. The Sterling pound was the world reserve currency at one time.
The british empire also over extended themselves with colonies and playing world power back in the day. They are a woke joke today.
Our culture and the American way is being destroyed before our very eyes and the lib's are the major enablers.
Europe has done this over and over.... and world wars are the results


Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha

Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by irfubar
We have recently discovered that some of the most dangerous among us are the pseudo conservative...
The ones that pretend to be conservative but are simply pandering to true conservatives for personal gain.
Think John McCain, Mitt Romney etc.... Trump has flushed them out of the woodwork, tremendous value in that .
We have many pseudo conservatives here at the campfire, they should be called out at every opportunity!
Couldnt agree more! Good post

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