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For a double ended WC deep seated, 3.5 of U is about right & used to be pretty popular. Bump to 3.7 for a button nose WC with a crimping groove. 4.5 is a bit stiff. Sounds like ithat load came out of an older Speer manual.
At least 4 styles of a 148 WC & each has a different bearing length or shank style. They each need to be treated differently as far as min. or max loads. No cannelure on these (only lubrication grooves which came packed with lube), and they are identical both front and back. The Speer Manual was printed in 1979.
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I had a new 38 airweight. It has the safety. That is the tipping point for me. I had a 360PD, in 357, it has the safety. That is masochistic shooting experience with full house 357s. I carry that on my hiking pants, so it gets carried everyday, but never gets to the range. I should knock the dust off with 38 specials. It is easy to carry at 11.5 ounces empty.
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They are under 2.3 grains of 231 . Winchester 231? Yes
Its all right to be white!!
Stupidity left unattended will run rampant
Don't argue with stupid people, They will drag you down to their level and then win by experience
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[quote=gunzo]For a double ended WC deep seated, 3.5 of U is about right & used to be pretty popular. Bump to 3.7 for a button nose WC with a crimping groove. 4.5 is a bit stiff. Sounds like ithat load came out of an older Speer manual.
At least 4 styles of a 148 WC & each has a different bearing length or shank style. They each need to be treated differently as far as min. or max loads. No cannelure on these (only lubrication grooves which came packed with lube), and they are identical both front and back. The Speer Manual was printed in 1979.[/quote Then refer to first grain wt. ~3.5 grains. Not good to take internet load numbers, but 3.5 is spot on. The old manuals had some optimistic loads & Speer was actually referencing their 148 & not a DEWC. I.E, last sentence of my post.
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I ran a box of a 100 rounds through the same gun a while ago and my hand felt like hamburger. I know use a golf glove.
Due to the increased price of ammo, don't expect a warning shot...
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I ran a box of a 100 rounds through the same gun a while ago and my hand felt like hamburger. I now use a golf glove. Good idea. Haven't played golf in over a decade, but still have a few old golf gloves.
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Try 2.7 grains of Bullseye and the wadcutters. Bunny fart load.
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3.0 gn Bullseye with the Speer 148gn swaged lead wadcutter always worked for me.
Old guy, old guns.
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I ran a box of a 100 rounds through the same gun a while ago and my hand felt like hamburger. I now use a golf glove. Good idea. Haven't played golf in over a decade, but still have a few old golf gloves. You play golf left handed?
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A 40+ year old reloading manual can be a good reference and have some educational, as well as entertainment value, but it would be wise to buy a modern manual or at the very least refer to online guides provided by the manufacturers.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL. The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world. The website is up and running!www.lostriverammocompany.com
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This was my primary carry for 20+ years. Prob’ly a 38 dash something, firing pin on the hammer, can’t be bothered to dig it out of the safe just now. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/VLD7QJFr/IMG-0725.jpg) Still would be my favorite carry piece, I came to treasure it so much it sits in the safe replaced by a more recent shrouded hammer (638) Airweight. Carry load was and is Remington 158gr LSWCHP +P AKA the “FBI load”. It came with the Uncle Mike’s Boot Grip usual in the ‘90’s. The grip in the photo is the Uncle Mike Combat Grip that came with their .357 j -frames. Still fits in a pocket but gives a consistent and postive grip when grabbed in urgent mode. I dunno how that 158grn Remington +P load I use compares to your handloads but surely the larger grip must help. I haven’t found recoil to be a problem.
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3.0 gn Bullseye with the Speer 148gn swaged lead wadcutter always worked for me. Fact. Been using that load for over 40 years.
I am..........disturbed.
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