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Does anyone have any experiance with the 32 Remington in a 141? Ive purchased one here and was able to aquire 80 new pieces of brass, I have the Speer bullets and a set of Redding dies on the way. Ive read guys are trimming brass down the meet the col and utilize the cannelure. I will use the Hawk Round nose bullets if these do not feed well. I just do not want to cut my $2 brass down if it's not needed.
Any insight would be appreciated

Shawn

I had a 32 Soecial and had a couple different 141’s. But no 32 Remington 141.
The loads you’ll find for a 32 Special are perfect for the 32 Remington. It amounts to a little more power than the 30-30.

Thanks for the reply, I would feel comfortable using special data for the Remington from what Ive read. Ive also heard mixed reports of flat point bullets depending on seating depth. The Speer seems to be one people mention that feeds well but I am wondering about crimping and seating depth.

Shawn

I had a 30 Rem and a 35 Rem - both 141’s.
I crimped the bullets in the crimping groove. I used round nose bullets in both the 30 & the 35.
I’m guessing if you are crimping into crimp groove and it fits in the magazine and you can chamber and eject a loaded round, you’re there.

Unfortunately bullets designed for the 32 Remington are as obsolete as the cartridge. Overall Cartridge length seems to be a bit long for the Speer if crimped in the groove from what I've read. Some have used the 8mm (323) but I would want to sewage it down, not impossible but I would think the bullet may be a little tough for the Remington velocity ~2200 fps. Hawk makes a bullet designed for the Remington but it is about a $1 a pop.

Shawn

Thanks for the laugh.

FWIW I have passed on several model 14 and 141 in 32 for the same reasons you are asking about. I don't have the answer but if it were me, I'd try 5 full length and see how they run. If you have issues you can try cutting 3 or 4 down and see if it fixes the feeding issue.

Gotta love spell check, I hadn’t noticed the error. Too funny. I plan on doing just as you suggested. I received my brass and dies today. Not much there for$317

Shawn

The other thing to maybe look at is a cast lead bullet, possibly powder coated. I'm betting there's some good 32cal casts that would work well in the 32Rem, and powder coating is fairly cheap and easy. I've been making some 30 and 35 cast PC bullets for plinking and it's not rocket science.

IIRC, the Lyman #45 loading manual has data on the 32 REM for both cast lead and jacketed bullets in the "obsolete" section of the book.

Thanks for the heads up on the data and I did look into cast bullets. The coating is exactly what I thought about. I don't cast as of now but MBC is in my back yard and I use their 41 mag bullets with their hi-tec coating. I didn't see any 32 cal bullets that really looked round. I'm going to try the Speer bullets as Ive heard of people having success with those. I might enjoy a hunt with it so I need to find a bullet suitable for that

Take a look at Hawk bullets.
https://hawkbullets.com/bullet-selection.html
I shoot cast bullets in my original Sharps carbine but only because I have to do so. Otherwise I find jacketed bullets work better on game.

Yes Hawk is an option and I may try them. They are a bit pricey but what’s the difference when you are setting them in $2 brass.

NOE makes molds that may work well for your 32. I just looked at their selection of molds.

No swaging needed , the .323 work just fine. I use from .321- .323 and if anything the .323 might shoot just a hair better. Mostly I shoot the Hornady 170 and 34.5 grains of IMR 4320.

PS: Lead bullets work but leave lead shavings in the magazine so you need to clean it out fairly often and that's not particularly fun as they are a lot more complicated than most tube magazines.

Lots of good info here, I have heard about the lead shaving off. I’ll try these Speers and see how it goes. The flat point Hornady my be fine too at the correct depth

Shawn

The issue with the flat points is (according to the internet experts) that they don't feed reliably with the unique model 14 magazines. Same with the pointed bullets that the corkscrew magazine tube was supposedly designed for. I've shot some powder coated 200gr flat pointed Lee 200 gr bullets out of my 35 Rem, and have not noticed any issues with feeding personally. I'd like to hear your experience though also once you've tried them.

I will try to post results when I get around to loading and shooting this 141. I am still waiting on a shell holder and some time off. It came with some reloads I plan to disassemble and they are flat points. I was curious enough to see if they would feed and I was having issues with the carrier lifting the shell into position. I completely disassembled and cleaned the rifle. After getting things back together it was lifting the shell as it should but it did seem to jam. I saw where someone had better luck cycling the pump in a more vertical position as in don't watch it feed. Well I guess there may be some merit to this as it fed the shell right into the chamber. Interesting project and I love this rifle. If I am reading the date codes correctly it was built in November of 1936, predating me by 35 years. Sure wish these old guns could talk, I have no idea its history


Shawn

My 141 in 30 Remington feeds flat point bullets fine. I believe the OAL magic number is 2.550", no longer.
The 141 was not designed for pointy bullets. Actually the tag which came on them new read "Round Nose Bullets Only". Of course Remington only made round nose bullets for their factory ammo. Flat point bullets are also safe and well feed well if not too long.
Good luck!
Rick

I love how it was made for round nose bullets only as the hanging tag stated. Also, the special design magazine tube with spiral flutes so as the point of a bullet would not rest on the primer of the cartridge in front of it. Seems a bit of a conflicting design.

Shawn