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My "great deal" on a '09 Argentine turned into a money pit. You win some you loose some. “Well, you know, sometimes that happens.” Tom Sellek
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Maybe you spent a little more than you thought. Like Tom says "happens" to be short, but you have one hell of a rifle and exactly what you want.
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Scotty, I have wanted a M725 in 280 since I saw one for sale in a hardware store on State Street in Salt Lake UT. It was new so that will give you some idea of when that happened.
The 280 was my favorite general purpose chambering. Actually I still believe that it is slightly superior to the 270W but availability of ammo and brass favors the 270W.
I believe that Warren Page chose that rifle for his son’s use.
“Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away”. Antoine de Saint-Exupery. Posted by Brad.
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Scotty, I have wanted a M725 in 280 since I saw one for sale in a hardware store on State Street in Salt Lake UT. It was new so that will give you some idea of when that happened.
The 280 was my favorite general purpose chambering. Actually I still believe that it is slightly superior to the 270W but availability of ammo and brass favors the 270W.
I believe that Warren Page chose that rifle for his son’s use. I like that rifle quite alot Rick, and you know I am a 70 fella through and through!
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Big fan of the 280 Rem for years. The 280 Rem short fall comes at the expense of factory loads, IMHO. Mfrs have to be concerned about the possibility of rounds being fired out of the Rem 742. That said, my experience with factory 280 Rem loads has shown them to be somewhat anemic. The 280 Rem is best in the hands of a reloader. But.... if I'm going to reload the 280 Rem, I'm gonna give serious consideration to the 280 Ackley.
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i load 59.1 gr of h4831 behind either 140 NBTs or 140 partitons. POI/POA is the same for both bullets out of my m70 FWt. I havent had a deer or blackbear take a step after being hit with either
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FUNNY fhuqking schit,that someone can fhuqk up a 280 so badly,as to turn it into a 264 Kreed LITE. Hint.
Pass the 21" spout,.697 BC's at 2700fps and hold the Long Action Fluff. Hint.
Fhuqking LAUGHING!............
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…. if I'm going to reload the 280 Rem, I'm gonna give serious consideration to the 280 Ackley. I did. Now, I love the Ackley as much as I originally did the 280. Going forward, it’s the Ackley for me.
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My 280 is a Kimber SA and with 140gr NAB it's a toss up between H4831 and R19. It's nice to have two powders that work so well.
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My 280 is a Kimber SA and with 140gr NAB it's a toss up between H4831 and R19. It's nice to have two powders that work so well. It surely is.
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Update on the 7 express. My son killed a good whitetail with it, a few does and I shot a 27 inch wide 3x4 mulie. Sons kill was at about 240 and mine was at about 125.
Stick is gonna love this one. I'm loading A4350 and a 139 sst. My rifle is shooting my load at 3010 fps. It's a 3/4 inch gun with that load. I've noticed that upon entry that bullet violently comes apart like a vmax. I've had a couple blow throughs on does but both bucks the bullet was removed on the offside under the skin. Pretty typical of an interlock or a tipped interlock that they call an sst. Bullets perform as they should, but they kinda spook me. I may go to a gmx or cx. I've never shot an all copper bullet, but from what I've seen on an sst, elk is definitely out for me and that chambering. I'm not real excited about an eldx either. Our special doe days start next week, so I'm gonna test out some gmx bullets and see what they are about. If your a gmx user, let me know what you think in a 280.
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I've noticed that upon entry that bullet violently comes apart like a V-max. Pretty typical of an Interlock or a tipped interlock that they call an SST. SST and Interlock are nowhere near the same bullet. I would not waste my time with SST's. The SST (lack of performance) is no indicator of the 280's capability.
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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I like the interlock better, but I think a sst is pretty much an interlock with a tip, from what can see. I may run some 160 to 175s through it and see what happens. I still wanna give that 150 gmx a try.
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Stick, what powder are you tossing them 180s with? That 06 brass looks better as a 7 express.
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160g-162g Max load of IMR 7828 Fed 210 primer is an absolute must for tiny, tiny groups Win brass if you can find it 2930 fps is the accuracy node in my remingtons
Don't forget the Federal 210, this is important!
180g ELDM R#17 2700+ Win brass, Fed 215 if you run Lapua brass, you cannot kill the brass. This load is worth building a rifle around!
MOST forget impact velocity
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2930 with a 160 is magnum territory. You ever try it with 4831?
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IMR 7828 with the Fed 210, Win brass, with 162's, a load right out of the Nosler #3  manual's most accurate load, I shot this is 4 different Rem 700s, partitions, sierra btsp, and ELD's. Federal 210 primer holds the key to the fine accuracy, while other primers just blow the groups.
Most can not get their head wrapped around the 180 ELDM in Lapua brass in the 280 case, but 2700+ is real world with .796 advertised bc. The 280 with 180s combo makes you want to get rid of a lot of other crap.
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