Some of you fellas understand shotgun exterior ballistics, some don’t. Some understand the significance of fit, some don’t. Some of you even grasp that gauge is not all that important. To those who grasp the fundamentals I offer minor condolences to the bad boys’ family. To the rest, well, best of luck!
I am..........disturbed.
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The advantage of a purpose built pump gun in shorty shells is obvious. Capacity. That's a drawback for pump guns with tubular magazines, which is why so much emphasis is placed on fast reloading under fire. Increase capacity, and decrease the urgency for fast reload under fire training.
My 590A1L has a 9 round tube. That's if I'm dumb enough to grab the shotgun for home defense lol
What if it's for another family member who may be home alone that isn't so proficient at handgun self-defense?
Someone set said family member up for failure. Also, if you have enough room to swing that shotgun, you have enough room to swing a 16" AR.
Weak sauce answer. Against multiple charging attackers I'd trust my daughters life behind a 12 gauge pump before an AR. Facts.
I wouldnt prefer a 12 gauge over an AR for any child. My daughter can use and shoot any of our AR's with great precision. She does well with a shotgun, but almost all children and a hell of alot of adults have a flinch behind a shotgun. Before you argue, load a 12 guage for your child and after they have shot if a few times, pretend to load it and hand it to them. Most likely a huge flinch. AR's have next to zero recoil
Then lose the handling characteristics of an 18" barrel pump shotgun.
Give me a scenario that having an extra 6" on the end of your shorty shotgun would cause you to not be able to effectively use that tool for protection? Do you have thick brush and tree growth in your home lol?
Some of you fellas understand shotgun exterior ballistics, some don’t. Some understand the significance of fit, some don’t. Some of you even grasp that gauge is not all that important. To those who grasp the fundamentals I offer minor condolences to the bad boys’ family. To the rest, well, best of luck!
Adapters are fine for messing around at the range, but are you going to trust your life to a friggin' wad of rubber pushed up the action of your shotgun? I bought one, and it fell out under recoil.
I haven't actually shot any myself, but I was thinking I might pick up a box of the birdshot variety, as a snake blaster load for the H&R 12ga single-shot that lives near the back door.
They might not be a bad balance of power/recoil in one of those shorty stockless Shockwave type shotguns, IF they cycle 100%.
Since we're sorta talking about extremes, does anybody use the 12ga 3 1/2" buckshot ammo? 18 pellets of 00 Buck, or 54 pellets of 4 Buck, per shot. Holy smokes, That's like a shoulder-fired claymore mine.
If you’ve a good enough supply of the shells I think it’s neat.
If you want to argue about practicality then why have anything besides a .223, .308, or 9mm lol
Just a thought here. Let's say you got a 30 round mag on your .223 and are shooting 55 gr. bullets, which seems to be very popular.
My Mossburg holds 8 2 3/4" shotshells and each of them holds 9 00 buckshot. 8 times 9 equals 72 and each of those 72 buckshot is .33 caliber and weighs approx. 53 gr. That's why I choose the shotgun over the above example.
Just my .02
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Since we're sorta talking about extremes, does anybody use the 12ga 3 1/2" buckshot ammo? 18 pellets of 00 Buck, or 54 pellets of 4 Buck, per shot. Holy smokes, That's like a shoulder-fired claymore mine.
My Mossburg holds 8 2 3/4" shotshells and each of them holds 9 00 buckshot. 8 times 9 equals 72 and each of those 72 buckshot is .33 caliber and weighs approx. 53 gr. That's why I choose the shotgun over the above example.
Just my .02
The shotgun's multiple projectile, per round, factor is worthy of appreciation. That's a different discussion, however, from a discussion of magazine capacity.
