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Man killed in Peoria robbery gone wrong, police say

Sounds to me like a robbery gone right.


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
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Man killed in Peoria robbery gone wrong, police say

Sounds to me like a robbery gone right.
Exactly! I hope he didn’t die instantly, hope he suffered some

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And the great thing is that if they catch his accomplice(s), they'll be charged with felony murder. It's a two-fer!


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
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Man killed in Peoria robbery gone wrong, police say

Sounds to me like a robbery gone right.

Yep. He fuqked around and found out.

And, from the article:

“ The robbery victim held a license to carry a gun issued in another state and was released by police with no charges.”

As it should always be!

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It doesn't say so in the story but I want to believe this was a black on black crime.

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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
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Man killed in Peoria robbery gone wrong, police say

Sounds to me like a robbery gone right.
I was about to post the very same comment.

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Sounds to me like a robbery gone right.
Not if u wuz Marcus!

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Originally Posted by Journal Star
The robbery victim held a license to carry a gun issued in another state and was released by police with no charges.


Really? In Illinois?


According to USCCA:

Which states' permits does Illinois honor?

Illinois will not honor any other states’ concealed carry permits.

So...why was the shooter not held and charged? Either the "journalist" is FOS, USCCA is FOS, or the shooter walked for political reasons would be my assumption.


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Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Journal Star
The robbery victim held a license to carry a gun issued in another state and was released by police with no charges.


Really? In Illinois?


According to USCCA:

Which states' permits does Illinois honor?

Illinois will not honor any other states’ concealed carry permits.

So...why was the shooter not held and charged? Either the "journalist" is FOS, USCCA is FOS, or the shooter walked for political reasons would be my assumption.

That’s always been my understanding, too. 🤪


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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Journal Star
The robbery victim held a license to carry a gun issued in another state and was released by police with no charges.


Really? In Illinois?


According to USCCA:

Which states' permits does Illinois honor?

Illinois will not honor any other states’ concealed carry permits.

So...why was the shooter not held and charged? Either the "journalist" is FOS, USCCA is FOS, or the shooter walked for political reasons would be my assumption.

That’s always been my understanding, too. 🤪

I too was unaware that Illinois honored other States permits. Anyone from Illinois know anything about this?

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Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by Journal Star
The robbery victim held a license to carry a gun issued in another state and was released by police with no charges.


Really? In Illinois?


According to USCCA:

Which states' permits does Illinois honor?

Illinois will not honor any other states’ concealed carry permits.

So...why was the shooter not held and charged? Either the "journalist" is FOS, USCCA is FOS, or the shooter walked for political reasons would be my assumption.

That’s always been my understanding, too. 🤪

I too was unaware that Illinois honored other States permits. Anyone from Illinois know anything about this?

And one of the MANY reasons I’ll never travel to that Fuqking state. Did I mention that the Bears and Chitcago SUCK. 😬


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Looks as if Marcus was sent to that Great Prison in the Far Beyond, from which there is no parole. grin

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10 more like that every day and the crime rate would begin to go down!

How many crimes a year does the average punk pull off?


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Could it be a CC for federal LEO?

Interesting tip from the police to use their parking lot or lobby to conduct deals... I can see flea markets coming to a precinct near you!


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I avoid traveling through the People's Republic of Illinois whenever possible because they don't honor my carry permit. I'm going to have to spend a little time there to close a deal on a truckload of antique Chevy engines I just bought, but I'll spend an absolute minimum of time there in the process.


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Per ISP

"No. Illinois does not recognize concealed carry licenses from other states. However, a resident from another state who has a valid concealed carry license from their home state may carry a concealed firearm within a vehicle while traveling through Illinois. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, the firearm shall be stored within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle."

I'm assuming for no charges to be brought the robbery had to begin before they exited their vehicle. The other possibility is they were retired LEO from another state. IL does recognize that.

There is a reason(bad) why IL doesn't recognize out of state CCW. I could go into further detail if anyone is actually interested.

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Originally Posted by minengr
Per ISP

"No. Illinois does not recognize concealed carry licenses from other states. However, a resident from another state who has a valid concealed carry license from their home state may carry a concealed firearm within a vehicle while traveling through Illinois. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, the firearm shall be stored within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle."

I'm assuming for no charges to be brought the robbery had to begin before they exited their vehicle. The other possibility is they were retired LEO from another state. IL does recognize that.

There is a reason(bad) why IL doesn't recognize out of state CCW. I could go into further detail if anyone is actually interested.


Yes, I am interested as we regularly travel from the DFW area to Michigan City, just east of Chicago to visit the wife's relatives. The easy route is through Illinois, but I've been under the impression that if I were to be pulled over and my firearms discovered I would be in serious trouble, so I have stayed out of Illinois for the last 14 years or so. Even taking two days to make the drive, it can be grueling. So...

What is ISP?

Do you have a link handy where I can see the specific applicable laws?


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I like this comment from the article:

"Whitehead likely died instantly due to internal injuries, according to the Peoria County Coroner's office."


Well, no schidt Sherlock.


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Our county Sheriff's office has designated parking spots right in front of the building for meeting people to buy or sell stuff.


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Curious. Armed out of towners with at least one of the two having an out of state cc carrying money for a car, are directed into an alley by the brus’ in Peoria. And they go there. And win the ensuing gunfight. And LE says go and sin no more. Yep, that’s it. Button it up Danno, nobody booked tonight. Lots of slack in that story.


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Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by minengr
Per ISP

"No. Illinois does not recognize concealed carry licenses from other states. However, a resident from another state who has a valid concealed carry license from their home state may carry a concealed firearm within a vehicle while traveling through Illinois. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, the firearm shall be stored within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle."

I'm assuming for no charges to be brought the robbery had to begin before they exited their vehicle. The other possibility is they were retired LEO from another state. IL does recognize that.

There is a reason(bad) why IL doesn't recognize out of state CCW. I could go into further detail if anyone is actually interested.


Yes, I am interested as we regularly travel from the DFW area to Michigan City, just east of Chicago to visit the wife's relatives. The easy route is through Illinois, but I've been under the impression that if I were to be pulled over and my firearms discovered I would be in serious trouble, so I have stayed out of Illinois for the last 14 years or so. Even taking two days to make the drive, it can be grueling. So...

What is ISP?

Do you have a link handy where I can see the specific applicable laws?



I managed to find Illinois' law:




Illinois Concealed Carry laws


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Originally Posted by RiverRider
Originally Posted by minengr
Per ISP

"No. Illinois does not recognize concealed carry licenses from other states. However, a resident from another state who has a valid concealed carry license from their home state may carry a concealed firearm within a vehicle while traveling through Illinois. If the non-resident leaves his or her vehicle unattended, the firearm shall be stored within a locked vehicle or locked container within the vehicle."

I'm assuming for no charges to be brought the robbery had to begin before they exited their vehicle. The other possibility is they were retired LEO from another state. IL does recognize that.

There is a reason(bad) why IL doesn't recognize out of state CCW. I could go into further detail if anyone is actually interested.


Yes, I am interested as we regularly travel from the DFW area to Michigan City, just east of Chicago to visit the wife's relatives. The easy route is through Illinois, but I've been under the impression that if I were to be pulled over and my firearms discovered I would be in serious trouble, so I have stayed out of Illinois for the last 14 years or so. Even taking two days to make the drive, it can be grueling. So...

What is ISP?

Do you have a link handy where I can see the specific applicable laws?


This might get a little long winded so please forgive me. ISP is Illinois State Police and they issue our CCW an FOID. First thing you need to know/understand is IL was the last state to offer CCW. The Heller decision forced the politicians to pass something. No surprise, this pissed off the the Chiraq dems. Their only course was to make IL requirements more difficult than any other state. I watched the CCTV discussion on this. It was bonkers. There were suggestions of 40+ hours of training many times. I wish I had a dollar for every time I hear a politician say "why just 8 hours, what do the state police receive". Therefore, we require more class room and qualifying time than any other state. The only thing that kept it from being worse is they had a hard deadline and completely lost their stuff at the idea of Constitutional Carry. Heaven forbid us serfs were granted that. What was passed made any reciprocity impossible and that was absolutely intentional. In addition, our CCW is tied to the FOID card. One must have a FOID card before obtaining a CCW. With the IL FOID, you cannot be admitted to a loony bin or have any recent convictions that may disqualify you from purchasing/possessing a firearm. Most states only run their CCW holder list once a month or year. IL does it daily or weekly. Thanks to those standards it is again impossible for any other state to comply. Therefore no out of state CCW is honored in IL outside the "in your car" rule posted above.

For someone out of state to truly have "peace of mind" when traveling through IL a firearm should be unloaded, in a case, and any ammo stored separate. Under those conditions I'm 100% certain you're obeying the law. What you can legally get away with might be less strict, but they jack with things so often I couldn't recommend it.

It's probably best if you do a search for "out of state Illinois state police". You should get to a FAQ that answers most everything. Sorry for rambling. I'm blaming the bourbon.

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No apology necessary! Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Next time we travel up that way I will have a printout of the Illinois law in the truck with me. I'll take care to look into any new legislation also.

Thank you.


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