9 shots and a threaded muzzle w/what looks like a "heavy" barrel. A stainless version of the 94 Black shadow with a less flexible cartridge. This had to have been concocted by the "I'd love to have a rifle in the same cartridge as my sidearm" crowd. That way you could carry twice as much weight and still be limited in range. FFS
That is a point.
Haha!
if you can't sneak up on them to within range of a 44 mag out of a long gun???
Will it handle Specials too?
Yes, but one of the early testers had some feed issues with one of the batches of specials that had a short OAL.
thanks Paul, as I am considering a Special revolver this summer
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Seems like it would be fun to dink around with but I don't get the pistol cartridge in a lever gun concept.
The plain old .30-30 covers that ground, and more.
Thankfully, the 30-30 will never go away. But, I'm liking the concept of pistol cartridges in a lever action. Very traditional and the anti gunners seem to be leaving them alone. I realize the S&W may not be everyone's first choice but a lever action has been re-gaining that "cool factor" it had 100 years ago. I see no downside.
kwg
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If S&W wants to lure me back into their fold, they'll have to make the hillary hole disappear from their wheel guns. Haven't bought a S&W since the mid 90's.
I saw this model this morning and have some mixed feelings about it. I am all about the stainless utility of it. Not crazy at all about the stock. Have no idea what "accessories" your going to be MLOK mounting on a hunting rig. And a 44 mag for a HD carbine is just silly. I have both a Stainless JM Marlin 1894 and a Henry Big Boy, both in .44 mag. Just looking at this I would put this above the Big Boy but don't see it replacing my 1894 anytime soon.
It would be nice if they offered it up in both .357 and .45LC. Waiting for Ruger/Marlin to do that with the new 1894s. Time will tell if it sticks. Hope it does, with more lever gun options out there on the market maybe we'll see the prices of them come down a bit.
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I watched the Honest Outlaw review and one from sootch00. I don't really care for the latter as a presenter but giving credit where due he does do a more thorough review than most.
Obviously it's a Marlin 336 through and through but with some interesting variations. The magazine comes completely out, it's not a tube within a tube, when you release the knob at the end the whole magazine comes out. It's not made for loading and unloading, just unloading. At around 11:25 he does that with a fully loaded mag and the whole thing flies out and off camera. Oops.
The screws are all allen head which is certainly practical if not traditional, but then this rifle isn't following tradition too much.
At 13:25 he fires a five round group at 25 yards using the factory peep sights - really not impressive for 25 yards, or else he can't shoot peep sights worth beans.
Trigger pull on his example came in about 3 1/4 pounds, not too shabby for a hunting rig.
Nobody mentions if the loading port will slice your finger open but I didn't see any blood, so who knows.
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I'm glad to see S&W doing this. It's always good to see the gun companies expanding their horizons. That said, this rifle doesn't appeal to my tastes in a lever gun. Personally, I'd rather not have the big lever loop, the pik rail, the threaded muzzle or the attachment points. I like stainless steel, but would prefer a black finish over it. Also would prefer straight-grained walnut over plastic furniture. .500 S&W would interest me way more than .44 magnum and I would prefer .30-30 to either. All the same, if they made it in .25-20 I'd grab one, but I'm not holding my breath for that.
In all honesty the Rossi stainless Trapper based on the Winchester 92 action would be my choice. Considered by many to be the strongest and fastest cycling SA revolver carbine. They have wood and laminated gray. On a 44 Mag stainless Trapper I wouldn’t care or need telescopic sights for my purposes so that’s not a consideration on a 16” carry carbine.
The Rossi is around $675 or about half the cost of this S&W cross between a Marlin and a Henry. For that kind of money you could slick out the Rossi to be impressive for the purpose intended, which is wilderness protection with a Trapper platform.
Seems like it would be fun to dink around with but I don't get the pistol cartridge in a lever gun concept.
The plain old .30-30 covers that ground, and more.
Thankfully, the 30-30 will never go away. But, I'm liking the concept of pistol cartridges in a lever action. Very traditional and the anti gunners seem to be leaving them alone. I realize the S&W may not be everyone's first choice but a lever action has been re-gaining that "cool factor" it had 100 years ago. I see no downside.
kwg
Absolutely no downside for some uses and looks like it would be fun. Just not sure I'd use one a lot if I owned one.
. Might be a good marketing move for S&W, time will tell. Leverguns are very popular still and straight-wall hunting regs in some states increase the market. 44Mag ? The new Marlins and the Henrys don't stay on the shelves for long. Try to find a new model 357, 44 or 45-70 That's probably a safe choice for the roll-out. Enough power for a deer gun and plenty for HD. The modern furniture and accouterments ? I'm not a fan but their marketing people must have determined that the new buyers want it. The wood furniture model is too much money. I'd be looking at a Big Horn 460 for that kind of money. The reviewer said that 357Mag and 45LC were mentioned in the manual, so they're probably next.
A 45-70 and a lower price-point wood furniture model would round out the line-up nicely.
9 shots and a threaded muzzle w/what looks like a "heavy" barrel. A stainless version of the 94 Black shadow with a less flexible cartridge. This had to have been concocted by the "I'd love to have a rifle in the same cartridge as my sidearm" crowd. That way you could carry twice as much weight and still be limited in range. FFS
Count me among the "companion arm" freaks. "MY" problem is .... I want the rifle in .41 Rem Mag instead of .44 Rem Mag. Marlin built a few .41 Mag lever guns. They ARE pricey and difficult to locate! Oh well! LOL!
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