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Only Barnes I have recovered from game. 130TTSX from 270Win. MV 3070fps cow elk at 310 yards last Monday. Compete failure, she had the temerity to stagger 20 yards before she keeled over. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/Nv71tLp.jpg) Dude, y'all got the audacity to come on here and use them big words ain't no one here knows
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My daughter-in-law has killed 2 deer with 85 grain TTSX from her 243. Both exiting and both deer went a grand total of 10 yards after being shot. Granted they were shot at typical Maine distances of 30-40 yards
In my mind both were a total failure. There was no fuss or drama The deer died within feet of being hit. The drags were downhill. Totally ruined my days all around. What kind of fun is that?
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My good friend shot them(308) for the 21-22 season. Lost 2 good bucks due to zero expansion and little to no blood trail from shoulder hits. He will NEVER use them again. This is great stuff. But I gotta ask, how did he know there was zero expansion when he didnt recover the deer? Would love to no the answer to this also. I have had great luck using tsx ttsx and lrx on moose elk and whitetail. Never had to track any of them!
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My good friend shot them(308) for the 21-22 season. Lost 2 good bucks due to zero expansion and little to no blood trail from shoulder hits. He will NEVER use them again. .308 win, or .308 cal bullets? Which bullets and what was the range? Details man, we need details!
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My good friend shot them(308) for the 21-22 season. Lost 2 good bucks due to zero expansion and little to no blood trail from shoulder hits. He will NEVER use them again. .308 win, or .308 cal bullets? Which bullets and what was the range? Details man, we need details! This,plus pictures of entry and exit wounds showing point of entry and proof of zero expansion. Is it possible point of intended entry and actual entry weren't the same?
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My good friend shot them(308) for the 21-22 season. Lost 2 good bucks due to zero expansion and little to no blood trail from shoulder hits. He will NEVER use them again. .308 win, or .308 cal bullets? Which bullets and what was the range? Details man, we need details! This,plus pictures of entry and exit wounds showing point of entry and proof of zero expansion. Is it possible point of intended entry and actual entry weren't the same? Probably won't get those. He lost the bucks.
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My good friend shot them(308) for the 21-22 season. Lost 2 good bucks due to zero expansion and little to no blood trail from shoulder hits. He will NEVER use them again. .308 win, or .308 cal bullets? Which bullets and what was the range? Details man, we need details! This,plus pictures of entry and exit wounds showing point of entry and proof of zero expansion. Is it possible point of intended entry and actual entry weren't the same? Probably won't get those. He lost the bucks. Conveniently....
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After reading this thread, me thinks, it is safe to say, they have the TTSX dialed in.
Which will probably mean, they will start messing with it again, soon.
Leaving good stuff alone and just keeping it on shelfs - say, here is a thought...
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I guess the 175 gr LRX I hit a buck with last week was a complete failure to open up a big exit wound and pump a huge blood trail. He went 22 paces and piled up. No blood trail just a dead deer. I’ll continue to tolerate that type of bullet performance.
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My good friend shot them(308) for the 21-22 season. Lost 2 good bucks due to zero expansion and little to no blood trail from shoulder hits. He will NEVER use them again. .308 win, or .308 cal bullets? Which bullets and what was the range? Details man, we need details! This,plus pictures of entry and exit wounds showing point of entry and proof of zero expansion. Is it possible point of intended entry and actual entry weren't the same? Probably won't get those. He lost the bucks. Most likely because he didn’t fuggin hit them anywhere! LOL
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Over 125 critters killed with them and I’ve yet to have a negative experience.
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Over 125 critters killed with them and I’ve yet to have a negative experience. I’m about exactly in that camp
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Over 125 critters killed with them and I’ve yet to have a negative experience. I’m about exactly in that camp Same here. I think I’m just over 160 now, and my worst experience was a doe that ran 150-200 yards before piling up, with a great blood trail. But that was my fault as POI was too far back and clipped the rear of one lung.
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One of the best bullets ever made, is the 200 grain .358 TTSX. Cut a 200 grain ttsx in half and compare it to other Barnes bullets in the 30 caliber territory. What you'll see Is a GIGANTIC cavity and plastic tip that is much larger than the smaller calibers. This large cavity and plastic tip initiates expansion even down to 1400 fps. With repectable sectional density, and BC, they bring the little 358 winchester or the Whelen into extended range territory, increasing the versatility of the .358 cartridges. The recoil feels like 180 grain from a 308 winchester, so lots of great practice. I drive them to 2700 fps from a 20" barrel using rl 10x. Pastor Rob from Dillingham shot a nice bull moose at 400 yards with a mild whelen load. The other more expanded bullet was a finishing shot to the neck of the downed bull: ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/dtGQJxsq/thumbnail.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/76St50fT/thumbnail-1.jpg) I'm tempted to try those in my 358. I was looking more at the 180 ttsx because I prefer to run lighter on monos. What's the concensus on the 180 vs the 200? Bb
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I am slowly gravitating to LRX and Hammers only for most of my BG rifles. If you like the solid copper bullet. You need to try the Lehigh Defense bullets, the wife and I are using the 155 TXC and the 155 and the 155 TME. We are using them in 308 Win 20 in barrels. These bullets kill, if you do your part you don't have to track animals . Bang Flop.
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Started using the tipped MRX when Barnes first came out with it. Switched to TTSX when they came out and started using LRX as well since they came out, rifle/cartridge dependent. That makes 18 years I and members of my hunting group have used tipped X bullets on antelope, mulies and elk.
No failures, no recovered bullets, no lost game, 50% straight-down DRT and longest 'tracking' job was maybe 60 feet across open land.
Have driven two lengthwise through mule deer with exit, 300WM/180gr, both 400 yards. Not surprisingly, they both died in their tracks. Very happy with the TTSX and LRX.
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120 TSX in my .260 won't go under 6" or so. Does that count?  140s C&C shoot MOA, so I guess it's the twist. I can live with that. About a dozen caribou, an elk, and a wolf couldn't.
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