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See that remington is gonna chamber these in their cdl and cdl sf.
1:8,5R. Looks promising. Anyone know when they will be available?

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They also offer a 1:8 twist 7 RM too.

Both good moves.


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Look at Remington, actually paying attention. Good for them.


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Originally Posted by bwinters
They also offer a 1:8 twist 7 RM too.

Both good moves.

Thinking the 7 rem is the way to go and I know better, but the 7 prc has some of those custom vibes to it in a factory rig.

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Originally Posted by JPro
Look at Remington, actually paying attention. Good for them.

It’s good to see they’re actually trying.


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Cue up Admiral Ackbar... it's a trap!

Seriously, though, I hope the new Remington gets it right and keeps it that way this time.

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180 lead bullets and 168 Barnes lrx for copper. Not a bad place to be.

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My deal on the 7 rem, is if I put a 180 in it, is it gonna be shoved way down in the case and seated deep or will it actually have room in the throat to take advantage of those long bullets?

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I will tell you in a few days. Have a new 1-8 7Rem mag I am getting ready to start loading 180eldms for.

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Originally Posted by Calvin
I will tell you in a few days. Have a new 1-8 7Rem mag I am getting ready to start loading 180eldms for.

I’m looking forward to seeing how you get it set up.


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Originally Posted by beretzs
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I will tell you in a few days. Have a new 1-8 7Rem mag I am getting ready to start loading 180eldms for.

I’m looking forward to seeing how you get it set up.


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If that bullet can be seated out a ways, it'd make my decision pretty easy.

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Originally Posted by beretzs
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I will tell you in a few days. Have a new 1-8 7Rem mag I am getting ready to start loading 180eldms for.

I’m looking forward to seeing how you get it set up.

It’s going to be h4350 because that’s what I have piles of.

We will see.

Trekker stock adds 4oz over the Tupperware stock, but it dropped right in.

$799 for the rem and $299 for the stock. If I cut 3” of barrel, different scope, I could get it down to a reasonable hunting weight.
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Originally Posted by Calvin
I will tell you in a few days. Have a new 1-8 7Rem mag I am getting ready to start loading 180eldms for.

I am curious to hear how long (or short) the throat is.

Have a friend with a RemArms pre 5r bbl in a 308. He says he can ALMOST reach the lands within the confines of the magazine. Another friend has a SPS SS in 308 with the 5r, he says he can hit the lands.

That’s a far cry from the old Remington’s typically long throats.


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Did you grab an sps stainless and restock it?
Was wondering if a wood stock and flutes was worth another 550?

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Originally Posted by Calvin
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I will tell you in a few days. Have a new 1-8 7Rem mag I am getting ready to start loading 180eldms for.

I’m looking forward to seeing how you get it set up.

It’s going to be h4350 because that’s what I have piles of.

We will see.

Trekker stock adds 4oz over the Tupperware stock, but it dropped right in.

$799 for the rem and $299 for the stock. If I cut 3” of barrel, different scope, I could get it down to a reasonable hunting weight.

I will be interested in hearing how it shoots and if you can get close to the lands. Does it have a 24” or 26” bbl currently?

My biggest gripe with the current M700’s is the 24” barrels in conventional cartridges. It’s not needed for most applications.


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Obviously, mag length and throat will determine OACL. Hopefully, Rem did more than just screw on a 1:8. Taking nothing away from my 7mm Rem Mags, I did pick up a 7mm PRC and am really liking it. And now that the Garmin has finally showed up, will start trying some different loads. Best to you guys with your projects, enjoy!


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My concern on a new quick twist 700 7mm rem mag would be if Remington was smart enough to pull their head out of their ass and get rid of their short throat as well. Both the 150 gr and 175 gr corelokts are dual diameter hence the short throat. 3.6" box and throated to use some of the high bc bullets would be great. I am not hearing all that great of stories on the durability of said high bc bullets. So even throated for 175 npt's it would be great. We all don't want the same things in bullet performance but I allways want a decent wound channel and an exit hole. Mb


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Originally Posted by Coyote10
Did you grab an sps stainless and restock it?
Was wondering if a wood stock and flutes was worth another 550?

Yep. It’s a sps 1-8 from midway.

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Originally Posted by alpinecrick
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I will tell you in a few days. Have a new 1-8 7Rem mag I am getting ready to start loading 180eldms for.

I’m looking forward to seeing how you get it set up.

It’s going to be h4350 because that’s what I have piles of.

We will see.

Trekker stock adds 4oz over the Tupperware stock, but it dropped right in.

$799 for the rem and $299 for the stock. If I cut 3” of barrel, different scope, I could get it down to a reasonable hunting weight.

I will be interested in hearing how it shoots and if you can get close to the lands. Does it have a 24” or 26” bbl currently?

My biggest gripe with the current M700’s is the 24” barrels in conventional cartridges. It’s not needed for most applications.

26”. Will probably leave as is.

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SAAMI indicates ~.250 FB for a 7 PRC. That sounds generous. Knowing Rem in the past, they'd exceed that.

Just surmising.

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Originally Posted by Calvin
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Did you grab an sps stainless and restock it?
Was wondering if a wood stock and flutes was worth another 550?

Yep. It’s a sps 1-8 from midway.

Can you seat em out?

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I can't talk about the 180 ELDM, but the 175 ABLR aren't all that bad with respect to 'infringing on case capacity'. I can still get 70+ grains of powder in a 7RM at 3.38 OAL without drop tubes or compression. In fact landed up to 71.5 gr of Retumbo without a drop tube of alot of powder compression. I can't really ask for much more.....


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Originally Posted by beretzs
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I will tell you in a few days. Have a new 1-8 7Rem mag I am getting ready to start loading 180eldms for.

I’m looking forward to seeing how you get it set up.

Makes 2 of us!


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I load my Tikka T3X Super Light, 24", LH 7 Rem Mag factory twist, 180 ELDM shot it at 200 yards under 1".


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You reloading snobs with RL26. Grin.

Wish I had 20-30lbs of the stuff.

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I'm gonna run h4831 and a 180 Berger.
Bet re-22 is a good powder too

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Originally Posted by Coyote10
I'm gonna run h4831 and a 180 Berger.
Bet re-22 is a good powder too
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You reloading snobs with RL26. Grin.

Wish I had 20-30lbs of the stuff.

My 7RM seems to like Re26 at 68 grains under the 175 ABLR ~ 3050 from a 26" barrel.

Oh and I bought 3 more lbs over Christmas..... grin


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I bet that thing is a hammer.

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I will load up both h1000 and h4350 for grins



This is where it hit lands. Ez fit in magbox.
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Plenty of throat on that chamber. The boat tail starts above or at the neck/shoulder junction. Won't be able to chase the lands much with the short neck but it's looking good for now. I'm liking my new prc but wonder if I'll have the clicker problem with it after a few loads.

I could be pretty happy with a 7 mag with an 8 twist and 3.6" box throated about like that. I could even tolerate the belts if it meant avoiding the prc clicker issue. Frustrating that the gun industry can get close but never get it all right. Especially when a simple change on a reamer spec could make the factory prcs be problem free. But the companies seemed determined to never give us what we really want.

Look at all the years we had truck tire hard recoil pads, 8 pound creepy triggers, flexi Tupperware with no bedding even at the lug, slow twist rifles, throat depths no where near mag box specs etc.

Pretty impressive that rem got as much right as they did this go around. Now if they could get all their short actions 3" mag boxes and fast twist their barrels like they're starting to do on some and then doing standard round barrels no more than 22" and mags no more than 24" with a decent pad and decent adjustable trigger they'd be back in the game.

There's always going to be those guys that are still wanting that extra 2" of barrel though. I'm not sure why because a few fps isn't worth crappy handling and balance when it's easy to just dial another click. Compensating maybe. Probably tough to build a good rifle and still appease the ignorant masses. Always going to be someone wanting longer barrels and slower twists for their round nose corelocks.

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Originally Posted by Coyote10
I bet that thing is a hammer.

I don't know yet - I'll let you know next elk season!


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Looking promising so far. That’s definitely going to give you some leeway to work.


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Originally Posted by Coyote10
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Originally Posted by Calvin
I will tell you in a few days. Have a new 1-8 7Rem mag I am getting ready to start loading 180eldms for.

I’m looking forward to seeing how you get it set up.


Me too.

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I'm ready to pull trigger on the new RemArms Alpha1 or Sendero. Preference is 7RM, and I plan to reload for it. But I don't have the expertise to know whether it's advisable to encroach that far into cartridge powder space. 7 PRC is great choice, but my personal preference is 7RM with high BC bullets.

Looking forward to Calvin's report.

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Originally Posted by Calvin
This is where it hit lands. Ez fit in magbox.
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What's the OAL for that?

Do you load for the belt, or use the shoulder?

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Easy decision for the rem mag after seeing that. Prc won't touch that cartridge!

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Originally Posted by kappa8
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This is where it hit lands. Ez fit in magbox.
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What's the OAL for that?

Do you load for the belt, or use the shoulder?

Shoulder. 3.368

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Originally Posted by bwinters
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I'm gonna run h4831 and a 180 Berger.
Bet re-22 is a good powder too
Originally Posted by Calvin
You reloading snobs with RL26. Grin.

Wish I had 20-30lbs of the stuff.

My 7RM seems to like Re26 at 68 grains under the 175 ABLR ~ 3050 from a 26" barrel.

Oh and I bought 3 more lbs over Christmas..... grin

Wish I had gotten in on that 175ablr party.

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Originally Posted by bwinters
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I bet that thing is a hammer.

I don't know yet - I'll let you know next elk season!

It’s a good one. So much so it’s tough to wanna try much else.

When the ABLRs shoot, man they work well.


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Originally Posted by Calvin
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This is where it hit lands. Ez fit in magbox.
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What's the OAL for that?

Do you load for the belt, or use the shoulder?

Shoulder. 3.368

Thanks Calvin. You just confirmed my purchase of 7RM (vs 7PRC).

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