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By fining businesses that hire them. No work and they will go to leftist states.
Pass legislation to require documents proving legal status to work in this country. Fine the hell out of businesses that don't have copies of those documents. Jail time for those illegally on state social services.
Let the illegals overwhelm the leftist states until they economically collapse.

The best way to assure you'll be overrun with feral cats is to feed the first one that shows up on your doorstep. Should people with any common sense at all be surprised that the same thing happens with feral humans?

Not a bad Ideal, but it should have happened decades ago. Too late now. All these DEMs in the big cities got too use to Juan mowing their lawns, cleaning their pools, and his wife Juanita cleaning their houses and cooking their food for cheap..

Maybe a handful of states could still do this, but doubtful the laws would even get enforced in any city anywhere...Just like immigration laws now.

Just tax all cash wired out of the US.
50% should do it.

Add any vehicles operated on State roadway without insurance and valid registration or driven by operator without valid license towed, impounded and hefty fine.

Yep and cutoff all welfare benefits and include some meaningful jail time for anyone caught here illegally. None of this is rocket science if our “public servants” wanted to do it rather than encouraging it.

At least 25 states have ponied up to support Texas, now is the time to make a big, public push for this type of legislation or show those governors as lying opportunists.

Start by making hospital emergency rooms and other health care facilities start collecting for their services for anything that's not an immediate life-threatening situation- - - - -cash in advance! Then those same facilities could also stop sticking it to anyone who shows up with any kind of insurance.

Head,.....snake.

Take away their cell phones.
But then we wouldn't have radiation detectors and surveilllance devices locating them.

You'd be amazed at the laws that are already on the books to address this. No new legislation required, just an administration willing to weather the storm if they do.

The Feds will attack anybody that does so.

Head,.....snake.

Wishful thinking.

Too many agricultural, construction, landscaping, etcetera, use these people as a labor resource. They have .gov ear and want this labor resource.

Add the .gov social services bureaucracy that needs these people as clients, a human resource for them. No way .gov social services reduce their ranks, they are looking to expand it. That's what Obama intended for the creation of a service sector economy.

Business and .gov WANT these illegals here for many purposes.

You and I don't matter.

To many to round up in Texas. It will be theirs in the next 10 years and this great state of Texas will be something completely different.

From I 10 South Texas is not much more than a high class Mexico that just happens to speak English…………but high class not for long.

Something called an I9 has been in force for decades. Provided the business operates above board and witholds taxes and pays social security. Memory says fines were 100's of dollars per day , per employee. Not vigorously enforced.

I suspect some companies deduct FICA items from illegals and then pocket the money.

sterilize every one of them them if they won't agree to leave.

I live in Arizona. If we got rid of all the illegals we'd have about two electoral votes.

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This is the key. I cannot remember who, but I have heard demons saying that this is the way they get more power in congress, and why they fought so hard to keep illegals in the census.

Hell, 20% ought to do it.

The fact is that wire transfers from many places are LESS than within the US.

SO simple. Just tax the transfers and it'll 1/3 self rectify easily. 1/3 for ONE simple fix.


Next- cut the spigot. Freebees? Eff off.

3rd- NGO/ and hundred different Churches etc who are helping set up the whole mess? free info, phamphlets, phones.... lose your tax free nonprofit status immediatley.

I get it, I really do. This would likely eliminate 90+% of the construction labor force here in the Carolinas. Seriously, there are very few black and white guys on the job site anymore. This certainly does need to happen, though.

Ever heard of cash? Labor shortage where nobody but Latinos of some stripe will do anything? My model employee of 14 years was illegal as all get out and I didn't know, on the books and all. The government wants them here. Or whoever owns the government wants them here. Try demanding papers from every dark, Spanish speaking person you run into. They-are-everywhere! Easy. Deport them immediately. It would work. It would be howled down overnight. 23,000,000 here already? Unless Texas drives the wets back across the river instantly, razor wire is for show. They turn them over to Border Patrol I heard. Very helpful.....Savvy?

There was a system in place that worked well for labor. Work visas, had to apply and be approved to work here with proper paperwork. No social welfare, no unemployment, if no work, go back home. Pay their taxes, if you break the law, get deported and not let back in. That system worked fine until dems f'd things up.
Here's an interesting idea, why not let non-hispanics come here on work visas. I am sure there are plenty from Eirope, South Africs, Zim, Asia etc that would love to come ro this country on work visas then have a chance to legally immigrate.
Wouldn't that be a better system than "Carolina needs weak minds and strong backs so let every criminal and terrorist to freely walk into our country "???

Then where will the construction laborers & dairy workers come from? I believe they tend to be some of the better shingling crews I have seen.

That's a good one!
I watched over a mex roofing crew doing a job on a friends house. Most bullshit slapshod roofing crew I have ever seen. Shingled over a foot wide gap by the chimney instead of repairing loose ply. Tried to hide it and had a fight to make them fix it. They didn't know I lived in San Diego for years and my spanish was still good enough to understand what they were saying.
Mex crews are only as good as el hefe keeps them in line.
Real work visas administered properly, deportation when necessary. At least until scammers are pared off welfare rolls.
It's really not that tough to do it right.
Contractors love paying illegals half the rate a documented lworkee would get, and guess what- they charge rhe same for the project but pocket the savings.see that all the time.

With the revenue involved in the construction industry down here, I can’t conceive of sending all the illegals home. I’d love to see it happen, but it won’t. They would burn the place down on the way out. The big construction moguls have the influence to keep them here and on the job.

Fine, we have used migrant labor forever. Just keep track of them with work visas, deport the criminals and control the damn border. Or keep your damn open border and good luck to the third world, disease ridden [bleep] your kids will inherit.
And good luck when the border crossing jihadis ramp up with 9-11 versions 2 plus.
I'm done here.

Heck Butterball built a trailer park next to the processing plant and has a bus go thru and pick them and take them to work every shift., takes the rent and electricity and water bill out of the weekly check, their kids of course go to the local public school and the social worker makes the rounds of the trailer park.

Yep. The illegals are the majority employees in the meat processing plants too. Americans don’t want to do those kind of jobs anymore. Sad but true.

No one wants to pay what life actually costs.

Well, I would really hate to impose on your trophy hunting trips abroad.

So every time I hunt outside the us and have to wire money I should get a 50% tax? That makes a ton of sense.

Maybe someone can answer??? I work for a large company, 1000 plus employees. I know for a FACT that a bunch of the low level laborers and concrete guys are illegals but they somehow get around it? The company I'm pretty sure follows the law..... almost impossible as far as audits and all the other bs.... they have to pay into someone's SSI, etc?

Had a guy tell me it's so bad they damn near advertise on the Mexican radio channels business that will "help" if you are in that situation.... I don't know if that means they steal Ss numbers or what, but they definitely have a workaround..... not like the millions of illegals are all working for cash.

I have a buddy that runs a small ranch/farm. He has 4-5 hired guys. His mom does the books and noticed "Jose" had a birthday coming up..... she bought him a cake and they surprised him with a little party after work one day...... he had NO IDEA it was his birthday. Our country is fuked.

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I'm for that.

Every election this dream comes into focus. It will never happen, big business, small business, agriculture alone won't let it.
One year there was a shortage of available labor to harvest crops, process, butcher, construction etc. So one local corp. flew in a whole plane load of laborers from asian country.
Once the job was done the corp. decided not to pay the help, leaving the burden on the local and state agencies.
Takes years to sort out and litigate a mess like this.
I truly wish the existing laws worked but can't when corps. abuse it.
How many other systems do we overload as a false fix.

There are a lot of poultry plants around me. It’s nasty work gutting and hanging chickens, I wouldn’t want to do it which is why I learned how to read and write. When I was growing up the workers were almost 100% black until the late 80’s when almost overnight the blacks were all fired and illegals brought in. That started a pattern where the plants would go about a year then the immigration guys would raid them & haul all the illegals off. Within a week they’d all be back and they’d leave them alone for another year. Obviously the govt knew they were back and the yearly raids were for show, they were just a yearly vacation for the plants.

Now you go to the local Walmart and half the store is Hispanic, at least we can get Mexican Coke now. The schools are full of ESL students who cost a fortune for the locals. They quickly figure out how to get all the free stuff.

The blacks that were put out of jobs in the late 80’s all figured out it was easier to live in the projects and have babies to maximize their welfare payments, Clinton’s “welfare reform” actually massively increased it contrary to popular thought. Why work when you can just screw, pop out kids, & smoke pot all day?

The govt is 100% behind this, it would have been easy to fix by throwing every plant owner who hired an illegal into jail and fining them into oblivion, but they just look the other way with a wink. For those who say the price of chicken/lettuce will go up and we’ll have to pay more for roofers I say I don’t give a schit, there is no God given right to buy letttuce for $1 a head. The costs to our country for that lettuce and cheap roofing job are much more important than some contractors pocketing extra money on a roofing job. Run them all out and if the price of chicken goes to $20 a pound then so be it, switch to eating poke salat you pick by the road. I don’t care, let the free market sort it out. Your cheap labor is not more important than the destruction of our nation.

I think the issue is now that the Dems are trying to issue work permits to people here seeking "asylum" as they work their way thru the system.

In the eyes of Dems they aren't illegals, so the laws don't apply

the blacks are the ones that should be outraged going back decades to both parties bringing in cheap labor and votes - the latinos in this country will take their jobs now and be running their cities in 15 years.

whatever progress blacks think they have made in the past 20 years is going to be wiped out. They'll still be the "minority" in this country but they won't be "THE" minority, and latinos aren't going to vote to give them anything. There won't be enough white guilt to go around.

Back in the 90's I did work on a church bus that picked up kids that their families did not have a church. We picked up a lot of foreign kids. I remember a lot of times the families would move to Minnesota because the welfare system would pay out more.

That is one of Trumps ideas to build the wall. It makes Mexico pay for it. It is disgusting that they get to work mostly tax free and send it home . Then they live almost free in the states from welfare , EBT cards, utility subsistence, free healthcare , rent mostly payed for by the governemnt , free schools for the kids too.

IDGAF

SO the industry and the rest of us take a hit. BOoo freaking hoo.

Great. Then get em on work visas and have the companies sponsor them.

implement work visas with rules. Real rules.

^ or have the cost of a hospital visit for strep throat come out of the liberal doctors paycheck.

Unacceptable.

"i swear, I thought she was 18!!!"

Wittingly or not, you are part of the problem.

The reason I left Minnesota back in 1995. State was a welfare Disneyland, when I first moved there in 1979. It only got worse year after year... I saw it up close, as I covered the State of Minnesota, and then each of the Metro Twin Cities major accounts, along with each of the 7 Metro Area County's Governments...for a Fortune 250 company.. did that for 5 years.

you want to get rid of all of these foreign welfare bums in our country? Get rid of the DemocRATic Party, and quit voting them into office... who do you think is letting them all in here, in wild hopes they will all vote for the DemocRATS each fall.
That IS THE ONLY REASON THEY ARE LETTING THESE PEOPLE INTO THIS COUNTRY.

Personally it drives me NUTS when I hear people rattling off in Spanish... What an irritating language.. just like some of the Asian languages are...

We should all anyone with a hard work ethic into our country... and for everyone we let in, then deport a democRAT to south of the border... we also need to relocate all the drug addicts in the country to Mexico and Latin America.

The illegals or the businesses?

Can you explain how you see that actually working?

IDGAF

SO the industry and the rest of us take a hit. BOoo freaking hoo.

Right.

That “cheap roof and dairy” is about the worst deal going when you factor in the real cost to society of “free” healthcare, schooling, housing, food stamps, phones, and utility assistance.

That’s before factoring in reduced wages for Americans that results in still more welfare, increased crime and jail/court cost, loss of our culture and ultimately the country or that they or their kids will one day all be voters and voting democrat.

Is anything ever done right in California? I wish I could send you a video, I do not have except in my head, of one of my brother's "Mex" crews, as you so delicately decribe them. 3 slightly built he men storming a steep, cut up house of some 50 squares in a single, short day. You are also ignorant as the lowest "no savvy" stereotype on how much these remarkable men are paid. The lowest "no savvy" wetback will not work for less than $200 cash a day. The sons born here of illegal fathers learned their trades as teenagers, speak perfect Englis, are citizens by virtue of geographical birth - improperly in my view. They have pristine papers, accept the rigors of insurance and tax filing, are polite and professional, unlike their Redneck counterparts, and pay half or more of their men "en effectivo" off the books. Who ya gonna call?