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Nice offhand shot.

I am disappointed they didn’t have the Nosler partitions 170 RN to try. It was a very informative and entertaining video!

My records show I settled on the 160 FTX with 33 LVR powder and Magnum CCI primers in the 30/30

43 grains LVR in the 300 savage. 39 grains in the 308 MX. My 308 MX 336s don’t have sticky extraction but the lever pops open. So I wonder if a gunsmith may be able to tighten the lever hold?

It seems I never load lever actions towards the higher end of the data. Even though the data is derived from lever actions?

There are sure some great reports from people trying the LVR powder and the FTX bullet in the 35 Remington. But I haven’t really worked it up myself.

The author of terminal ballistics research believes LVR powder would preform well in the 308 Winchester.

Heck, saw on hunting channel a couple years ago where a guy shot a big bull with a black powder rifle at about 450 yards. Again, something that most people shouldn't even attempt.

smokepole;
Top of the morning to you sir, I hope the day's breaking clear and fair down your way and you're all well.

Having watched brobee .223's videos for a whole lot of years now as well as corresponding a couple times with him on social media, my read on him is that he's a fairly serious shooter, with a curious mind, who also likes to hunt.

My initial exposure to him was his excellent videos on shotgun slug performance, which by the way are still educational and have aged the past decade quite well. His tests led me down a rabbit hole and towards either Gualandi or Brenneke slugs in our serious social shotguns for recalcitrant bruins.

If I was to guess from the terrain, he lives somewhere on the western side of Alberta, possibly as far north as the Peace country but perhaps further south, not sure. My reasoning there if memory serves was some comments about slugs and grizzly bear interactions, which would be mostly on the west side - mostly.

With respect to my longtime cyber friend from Florida, although I'm not a betting person, I'd be inclined to put some funds - admittedly Canadian loonies so not worth a whole lot - towards him being able to repeat that performance.

As evidence for my thoughts on the bet, he was shooting through his chronograph at the target which was at 150yds, using open sights. That's perhaps not David Tubb, but not nothing as we might say up here on our side of the medicine line either.

Anyways smokepole, for sure I don't know him from a fig, but it does look like they've raised their daughter to hunt and fish too, for which I'll give them a sincere tip of the battered Bailey as well.

Just a few random observations from an even more random little old BC redneck.

All the best.

Dwayne

Isn't the 160 FTX a little soft for 308 vels?

308MX is basically a ballistic twin of 300 Sav, not quite as spicy as 308 Win.

I was referring to the use of LVR powder in the 308 Winchester. Not the FTX bullet.

The 308 MX is rather anemic compared to the 308 Winchester. I couldn’t get near the max loads published in Hornadays 8 th edition.

Their max load using a 160 FTX bullet in LVR was 42.6.

I settled on 39.

So my best guess is a velocity of 2300 fps.

I would imagine in the 300 savage I am closer to 2500 fps

I don’t recall having a harvest with the ftx at point blank range.

The good thing about the 308 mx FTX is the cannulure is much further back, ( part number 30396) it fits real well in the 300 savage and the 308 mx. The further back the crimp, perhaps the less likely the jacket separates according to the posted video.

Video was well done.
His voice kinda irked me though.

Never been a .30-30 fan, but also never argued about its effectiveness.
Puts meat in the freezer so appears "good enough".

Back in 1900, the 30-30 was a long range cartridge.

Hunted with a young man once who only shot a Marlin 336 in .30-30 Win. The kid was sudden death with the gun out to 400 yards! Shots I would NEVER try he pulled off with amazing regularity!
Some folks got it!
Some don't!

I agree that 99% of folks toting a 30-30 have no business taking one after elk.

This guy is the 1%. He did everything right on the gun side: bullet research, expansion testing, velocity testing, accuracy testing, drop testing, etc.

He also did everything right on the hunting side: he practiced before the season, he shot some deer to validate his research and testing, he knew the country where he'd be hunting, and he stayed in touch with the adjacent land owners and the logging crew so he knew their plans.

Most important, he actually learned from everything else that he did. When he thought the elk would be close, the plan was to use 170 Hornadys. But once he learned that the elk would likely be farther out, he switched from the Aimpoint to an actual scope and he switched to a load that was pretty much ideal for the kind of shot he expected to get. I would have gone to a bolt gun at that point, but this guy is left handed so he has fewer options.

I'd bet a round of drinks that he could do that any time he wants, and I'd be another round that if the conditions weren't exactly right, then he'd pass up the shot.

Massive bonus points for making a video that's actually watchable without all the hunting bro BS and crazy music.


Okie John

Back in the old day's before Elk became Bullet Proof we killed Elk every winter with our 30-30 and 32 SPL. I don't recall killing one at over 200 yards with a 150 gr Corelock, some were pretty nice Bulls but we liked young dry cows for the freezer, I am sure I wouldn't have taken a 340 yard shot with my Win. 94. Rio7

I've always enjoyed Brobee's videos.

I reached the same conclusion for my one and only 30-30,so I bought a case of this Hornady ammo.

I enjoyed the video. I looked it up on Youtube and below that one was a moose hunt in Newfoundland with a Savage pump 30-30.

On my first moose hunt to Newfoundland, we had guides and a camp cook who were family. They told us their moose hunts were family affairs in which the family members helped carry out the moose and shared the meat. When I asked them what they used to hunt moose, they said Win. 94 30-30s. Link to the Newfie hunt below.

As long as the bullet gets into the vitals it doesnt matter what it is shot out of. I have seen elk and black bear killed with a 22 pistol. But that doesnt mean I am going to go elk hunting with a 22 pistol.

30-30 can be very effective on elk. I know several people that use it to fill their tags but they hunt heavy timber where a 50 yard shot is a long shot.

Yep. He talks a bit like Ron Spomer.

Way more tolerable than Spomer IMHO.

Was that you who once recounted a tale of walking shots in until you found the range and connected?

Ive worked with people from all over this country, and world.
Have foreigners in my family. Married one.

Some voices/manners of speaking just annoy me.
Most do not.

Have always listened to understand, not listened to reply.
So strong accents and other I find to be no big deal.
Even w hefty tinnitus.

Don't count on that result every time. He was lucky (and at that range it is luck) that he hit close enough to the spine to take out the back legs. I'd guess that if he'd hit a few centimeters lower that cow might have run into the next Province. It would be very interesting to see how that bullet would have performed if it had hit the shoulder, the fact that it didn't exit makes it questionable.
Fun video though, he made his own luck.