Someone smart enough to tell the federal government that they're not being sent to the other side of the planet to fight an ''unConstitutional undeclared war'' . Getting involved in Vietnam did the USA SO much good. Do whatever the gov't says I guess
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
While reading this thread and getting ready to comment I searched ""did congress"" and AI/Spy dropped ""declare war on Vietnam"".. I was looking for a date and such I knew Congress didn't Declare, AI/SPY is 100% plugged in here tonight
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
Someone smart enough to tell the federal government that they're not being sent to the other side of the planet to fight an ''unConstitutional undeclared war'' . Getting involved in Vietnam did the USA SO much good. Do whatever the gov't says I guess
Lessons learned in Vietnam caused the development of four of the most successful jet fighters, all-aspect IR missiles, and active radar guided missiles. The US has lost ONE air to air engagement since Vietnam.
Someone smart enough to tell the federal government that they're not being sent to the other side of the planet to fight an ''unConstitutional undeclared war'' . Getting involved in Vietnam did the USA SO much good. Do whatever the gov't says I guess
Akin to he Government demanding vaccinations, cops being ordered to stand down and Federal Coos targeting parents, all in the name of National Security. Yup following Uncle Sam's orders is the only mark of a True Patriot.
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
Johnson said it was a "police action" to stop the spread of communism. Kennedy nor Eisenhower sent troops over there, just advisors. When 500,000 troops are in a country fighting, that is not a police action, it is an undeclared war. Because it was a full blown undeclared war with a lot of troops, that had to be drafted, it caused a huge anti war movement. The drafting part was not done right. Senators and Representatives sons were not drafted. At first neither were full time college students. This caused a class struggle and triggered much of the anti war movement. The federal government can get out of control. It is too big with too much bureaucracy.
We don't need any more pro constitution, pro American, pro 2 A, public figures,who aren't afraid to say what needs to be said.......we have enough now. Shut that platform down !!
I don't know if he did or did not "dodge the draft" BUT.....
Why should a citizen be forced to fight for the defense of a foreign unknown country half way around the world? I could see a draft to defend our country from military invasion (actually I doubt a draft would be necessary as most would volunteer) but to use conscription to fight for "freedom" in a foreign land? F uck that globalist bulls hit.
That's what's wrong with this country. The Military industrial complex has been calling the shots since Korea because war is big business. And dumb [bleep] uckers eat it up because apparently "patriotism" is directly correlated with going to a foreign land and completely f ucking it up....all in the name of "freedom"? Lol an endless cycle of retardation and money making.
I don't know if he did or did not "dodge the draft" BUT.....
Why should a citizen be forced to fight for the defense of a foreign unknown country half way around the world? I could see a draft to defend our country from military invasion (actually I doubt a draft would be necessary as most would volunteer) but to use conscription to fight for "freedom" in a foreign land? F uck that globalist bulls hit.
That's what's wrong with this country. The Military industrial complex has been calling the shots since Korea because war is big business. And dumb [bleep] uckers eat it up because apparently "patriotism" is directly correlated with going to a foreign land and completely f ucking it up....all in the name of "freedom"? Lol an endless cycle of retardation and money making.
Yes. Quite patriotic for draft dodger. Read the guy's history some time.
I know plenty about him and I know plenty about ''people who write stuff'' . How much research have you put into the stuff written about a popular musician with a big voice? A big voice that said 'screw off' to the gov't <<-- the govt doesn't like people who don't do what they're told. SO - they'll have their 'people' in big voice positions [MSM] do what they can to destroy the dissenters. < Do you believe that? Jackson Handy gets it right.. The govt is not a friend to the common man- FACT.
PRESIDENT TRUMP 2024/2028 !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Bristoe The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
Yes. Quite patriotic for draft dodger. Read the guy's history some time.
I know plenty about him and I know plenty about ''people who write stuff'' . How much research have you put into the stuff written about a popular musician with a big voice? A big voice that said 'screw off' to the gov't <<-- the govt doesn't like people who don't do what they're told. SO - they'll have their 'people' in big voice positions [MSM] do what they can to destroy the dissenters. < Do you believe that? Jackson Handy gets it right.. The govt is not a friend to the common man- FACT.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
I too think the draft should disappear and be replaced with: Every 18-year-old male, or male high school graduate should upon reaching eligibility serve for 2 years of military service.
He hit the nail on the head a few years ago but then caved and apologized and then joined their club. Doesnt sound like he'd perform well under pressure.
Lessons learned in Vietnam caused the development of four of the most successful jet fighters, all-aspect IR missiles, and active radar guided missiles. The US has lost ONE air to air engagement since Vietnam.
So, it wasn’t a total wash.
Except that 2 million or more Vietnamese civilians, some and maybe most innocent of wrongdoing got killed.
Originally Posted by 1minute
I too think the draft should disappear and be replaced with: Every 18-year-old male, or male high school graduate should upon reaching eligibility serve for 2 years of military service.
Which would be involuntary servitude which is unlawful in the USA except as punishment for a crime says the 13th amendment.
Even Barry Goldwater thought the draft was unconstitutional.
Without compulsory military service being allowed we could/would have stayed out of both world wars, the Korean war, and the Vietnam war and we would be trillions of dollars ahead.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
I don't know if he did or did not "dodge the draft" BUT.....
Why should a citizen be forced to fight for the defense of a foreign unknown country half way around the world? I could see a draft to defend our country from military invasion (actually I doubt a draft would be necessary as most would volunteer) but to use conscription to fight for "freedom" in a foreign land? F uck that globalist bulls hit.
That's what's wrong with this country. The Military industrial complex has been calling the shots since Korea because war is big business. And dumb [bleep] uckers eat it up because apparently "patriotism" is directly correlated with going to a foreign land and completely f ucking it up....all in the name of "freedom"? Lol an endless cycle of retardation and money making.
My guess is we've had "advisors" on the ground in Ukraine for a while.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want.
The US was capable of destroying the economy of North Viet Nam and choking the fight out of them but fought a war with borders instead. The money makers in government didn’t fight to win they fought to not lose. So we lost. Lost lives. Real lives of real young people that should never have been in a jungle another world away. And the lives of those who sided with us there. A war not fought to win and minimize our own casualties is a war not worth fighting. And we still dance around the edges today.
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
I don't know if he did or did not "dodge the draft" BUT.....
Why should a citizen be forced to fight for the defense of a foreign unknown country half way around the world? I could see a draft to defend our country from military invasion (actually I doubt a draft would be necessary as most would volunteer) but to use conscription to fight for "freedom" in a foreign land? F uck that globalist bulls hit.
That's what's wrong with this country. The Military industrial complex has been calling the shots since Korea because war is big business. And dumb [bleep] uckers eat it up because apparently "patriotism" is directly correlated with going to a foreign land and completely f ucking it up....all in the name of "freedom"? Lol an endless cycle of retardation and money making.
I too think the draft should disappear and be replaced with: Every 18-year-old male, or male high school graduate should upon reaching eligibility serve for 2 years of military service.
I wouldnt shed a spot of blood for what this country has become unless the enemy is knocking on my door. I for the life of me cant understand sone of you. Youre willing go die in foreign land for a bullchit war started by rich evil elites that serve no purpose other than to kill and make the evil rich pricks even richer? Ffs
I too think the draft should disappear and be replaced with: Every 18-year-old male, or male high school graduate should upon reaching eligibility serve for 2 years of military service.
Youre insane
Why exactly ? Maybe not two years across the board. But what’s the the major issue with some kind of universal military service?
Lessons learned in Vietnam caused the development of four of the most successful jet fighters, all-aspect IR missiles, and active radar guided missiles. The US has lost ONE air to air engagement since Vietnam.
So, it wasn’t a total wash.
Except that 2 million or more Vietnamese civilians, some and maybe most innocent of wrongdoing got killed.
Originally Posted by 1minute
I too think the draft should disappear and be replaced with: Every 18-year-old male, or male high school graduate should upon reaching eligibility serve for 2 years of military service.
Which would be involuntary servitude which is unlawful in the USA except as punishment for a crime says the 13th amendment.
Even Barry Goldwater thought the draft was unconstitutional.
Without compulsory military service being allowed we could/would have stayed out of both world wars, the Korean war, and the Vietnam war and we would be trillions of dollars ahead.
I too think the draft should disappear and be replaced with: Every 18-year-old male, or male high school graduate should upon reaching eligibility serve for 2 years of military service.
Youre insane
Why exactly ? Maybe not two years across the board. But what’s the the major issue with some kind of universal military service?
Give me my country back. Give me the old god fearing, moral and free country we once had and id be more than willing to die for it. Not goving anything to what this place has become
I too think the draft should disappear and be replaced with: Every 18-year-old male, or male high school graduate should upon reaching eligibility serve for 2 years of military service.
Everybody? What about the 18 year old misfits, the Amish, the GIRLS (equal now), the crippled, the pregnant, the morons, the trans, the dopers, the criminals?
More importantly, how are we going to pay them and their medical care the next 60 or 70 years?
Involuntary service is a terrible idea as we learned in the late 60s. The troops even started killing their own officers back then. What do you think would happen now?
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.