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So, what's the opinion of the new Ruger Marlin stainless 336 rifles? SBL Series Model 336Trapper Series Model 336
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Just handled them this past Saturday at the show. I was impressed and I've owned at least twenty Marlins over the years
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I’ll prob pick up both and give them a try. Haven’t seen one available yet.
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I like 'em! I'd like them more if they'd chamber it in .360 Buckhammer (what a stupid name) They shoulda teamed up with Remington and called it the .360 Marlin.....THAT has a nice ring to it. I'd settle for a .35 Remington Trapper but we'll probably not see one of those either. I'd be tempted to pick a Trapper and send it off to JES.
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I like 'em! I'd like them more if they'd chamber it in .360 Buckhammer (what a stupid name) They shoulda teamed up with Remington and called it the .360 Marlin.....THAT has a nice ring to it. I'd settle for a .35 Remington Trapper but we'll probably not see one of those either. I'd be tempted to pick a Trapper and send it off to JES. I was thinking the same thing myself.
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I like 'em! I'd like them more if they'd chamber it in .360 Buckhammer (what a stupid name) They shoulda teamed up with Remington and called it the .360 Marlin.....THAT has a nice ring to it. I'd settle for a .35 Remington Trapper but we'll probably not see one of those either. I'd be tempted to pick a Trapper and send it off to JES. Doubt they chamber something that ammo or brass is extremely hard to find right now. Sent my 35 down the road 6 months ago and never looked back. I wouldn't mind the SS Trapper.
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A 30-30 would be cool but I'm liking the .360 better. It would be legal in Iowa for deer hunting where the 30-30 is not.
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Look good to me, but I agree, 35 Rem on the barrel would make them look better. I like that they come standard with peep.
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A 30-30 would be cool but I'm liking the .360 better. It would be legal in Iowa for deer hunting where the 30-30 is not.
kwg They have no plans to do a 360 BH right now but they're actively working on a 336 in 350 Legend
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Looks good, but I'm waiting on the SS 94s to come out.
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The .360 has a slight ballistic edge over the old .35, is legal in the straight-wall states, and after looking at Midway and Grafs, there’s currently exactly one ammo choice available for it. None for the .35, nor any brass for either. One load in stock for .400, no brass even listed.
.350 OTOH, is relatively fat, but by no means abundant. Don’t need them here, but I wouldn’t invest in any of them except the .350 until things pick up supply-wise.
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Im a little bit perplexed as to why Marlin is working on the .350 in a lever gun, as a good bit of the factory loads aren't flat tipped.
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They look nice, but the MSRP gives me sticker shock.
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The trapper looks interesting, but I have zero interest in a 30/30.
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I like 'em! I'd like them more if they'd chamber it in .360 Buckhammer (what a stupid name) They shoulda teamed up with Remington and called it the .360 Marlin.....THAT has a nice ring to it. I'd settle for a .35 Remington Trapper but we'll probably not see one of those either. I'd be tempted to pick a Trapper and send it off to JES. So very much this!! I wonder if Henry has some sort of exclusive on the 360?
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The trapper looks interesting, but I have zero interest in a 30/30. I’m with ya. That trapper makes my socks go up and down.
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No go on the lever, the sights, the laminate stock, and the pistol grip, everything else looks OK. Would be in interested if the same lines of the old 336 were maintained, only difference being stainless.
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Im a little bit perplexed as to why Marlin is working on the .350 in a lever gun, as a good bit of the factory loads aren't flat tipped. Hornady probably already has an FTX bullet in the works.
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A 30-30 would be cool but I'm liking the .360 better. It would be legal in Iowa for deer hunting where the 30-30 is not.
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Im a little bit perplexed as to why Marlin is working on the .350 in a lever gun, as a good bit of the factory loads aren't flat tipped. Actually he did address that. They working on a spiral fluted magazine similar to Remington 14/141. As odd as that is he said they are also working on a model 1894 Marlin in 9mm Luger. His reasoning was because none of the legislation currently out there goes after tubular magazines and they could have a 20 shot repeater
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Im a little bit perplexed as to why Marlin is working on the .350 in a lever gun, as a good bit of the factory loads aren't flat tipped. Actually he did address that. They working on a spiral fluted magazine similar to Remington 14/141. As odd as that is he said they are also working on a model 1894 Marlin in 9mm Luger. His reasoning was because none of the legislation currently out there goes after tubular magazines and they could have a 20 shot repeater That's interesting. Would be more interesting in .45ACP, but they'll probably do that eventually if they actually get the 9mm to work.
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I like 'em! I'd like them more if they'd chamber it in .360 Buckhammer (what a stupid name) They shoulda teamed up with Remington and called it the .360 Marlin.....THAT has a nice ring to it. I'd settle for a .35 Remington Trapper but we'll probably not see one of those either. I'd be tempted to pick a Trapper and send it off to JES. I was thinking the same thing myself. The 35 REM is an awesome woods cartridge and being that the 360 is sim in velocity I imagine it would be grand as well. Cast with the 35 rem run great. There is a lot of taper in that 360 BH, can it be necked up to 9.3 and still have a bit of taper? S.
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That trapper in 44 mag would be BAF
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I like 'em! I'd like them more if they'd chamber it in .360 Buckhammer (what a stupid name) They shoulda teamed up with Remington and called it the .360 Marlin.....THAT has a nice ring to it. I'd settle for a .35 Remington Trapper but we'll probably not see one of those either. I'd be tempted to pick a Trapper and send it off to JES. I was thinking the same thing myself. The 35 REM is an awesome woods cartridge and being that the 360 is sim in velocity I imagine it would be grand as well. Cast with the 35 rem run great. There is a lot of taper in that 360 BH, can it be necked up to 9.3 and still have a bit of taper? S. SAAMI has specs.Look and see: https://saami.org/technical-information/cartridge-chamber-drawings/
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No interest in a 30-30. .360 BH is what I need.
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No interest in a 30-30. .360 BH is what I need. Marlin Rep said they need to see 25,000 rounds on the market before they'll move on that round. He said Remington is pumping that ammo out at a slow trickle right now
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I just wish I had access to the 6,000 Remlins they have in permanent storage. They acquired them in the acquisition and will not sell them because they are Remlins
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A 30-30 would be cool but I'm liking the .360 better. It would be legal in Iowa for deer hunting where the 30-30 is not.
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A 30-30 would be cool but I'm liking the .360 better. It would be legal in Iowa for deer hunting where the 30-30 is not.
kwg They have no plans to do a 360 BH right now but they're actively working on a 336 in 350 Legend That has to be the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a long time. Is it going to be bored .355 too?
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Im a little bit perplexed as to why Marlin is working on the .350 in a lever gun, as a good bit of the factory loads aren't flat tipped. Actually he did address that. They working on a spiral fluted magazine similar to Remington 14/141. As odd as that is he said they are also working on a model 1894 Marlin in 9mm Luger. His reasoning was because none of the legislation currently out there goes after tubular magazines and they could have a 20 shot repeater Ok I was wrong. This is even dumber. Who the hell are they hiring to make these decisions?
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Im a little bit perplexed as to why Marlin is working on the .350 in a lever gun, as a good bit of the factory loads aren't flat tipped. Actually he did address that. They working on a spiral fluted magazine similar to Remington 14/141. As odd as that is he said they are also working on a model 1894 Marlin in 9mm Luger. His reasoning was because none of the legislation currently out there goes after tubular magazines and they could have a 20 shot repeater Ok I was wrong. This is even dumber. Who the hell are they hiring to make these decisions? They claim it as being "innovation". They want to go in new directions with the brand. Maybe they'll find these ideas to be impractical? I was wrong when I said "he said they need to see 25,000 rounds on the market before they'll chamber a cartridge". My Son corrected me. He said what the man actually said was "they need a commitment from an ammo manufacturer for 25,000 rounds before they'll chamber a cartridge". That's why they're not interested in the 360 Buckhammer, there's no commitment to producing 25,000 rounds
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A 30-30 would be cool but I'm liking the .360 better. It would be legal in Iowa for deer hunting where the 30-30 is not.
kwg They have no plans to do a 360 BH right now but they're actively working on a 336 in 350 Legend That has to be the dumbest thing I’ve heard in a long time. Is it going to be bored .355 too? Wouldn't it have to be .355?
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Im a little bit perplexed as to why Marlin is working on the .350 in a lever gun, as a good bit of the factory loads aren't flat tipped. Actually he did address that. They working on a spiral fluted magazine similar to Remington 14/141. As odd as that is he said they are also working on a model 1894 Marlin in 9mm Luger. His reasoning was because none of the legislation currently out there goes after tubular magazines and they could have a 20 shot repeater Ok I was wrong. This is even dumber. Who the hell are they hiring to make these decisions? They claim it as being "innovation". They want to go in new directions with the brand. Maybe they'll find these ideas to be impractical? I was wrong when I said "he said they need to see 25,000 rounds on the market before they'll chamber a cartridge". My Son corrected me. He said what the man actually said was "they need a commitment from an ammo manufacturer for 25,000 rounds before they'll chamber a cartridge". That's why they're not interested in the 360 Buckhammer, there's no commitment to producing 25,000 rounds Innovation like the tacti-cool skeleton stock and AR style hand guards and threaded muzzles? Call me old but someone needs castrated for that abortion. I’m sorry but just look at the prices the old JM guns bring and tell me why they need to reinvent the brand? Yes Remington screwed the pooch while they owned it but it looks to me like Ruger’s going to do the same thing if there’s any truth to the BS that rep was giving you. Rant off.
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Liking and owning ‘classic’ levers doesn’t keep me from appreciating a niche for modernized versions, tailored to suppressors and all conditions. Just because bolt guns come in all flavors, doesn’t hurt feelings….and they’re far older and more ‘classi’ than lever action repeaters. 
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Just because bolt guns come in all flavors, doesn’t hurt feelings….and they’re far older and more ‘classi’ than lever action repeaters. I thought I knew the history of firearm development pretty well but maybe not. So tell me, what bolt action repeater pre dated the Volcanic lever ? I mean I know there were pin fire rifles before then but I thought they were all single shots mostly of the break open type.
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I just wish I had access to the 6,000 Remlins they have in permanent storage. They acquired them in the acquisition and will not sell them because they are Remlins Look for those to trickle out at a time convenient to Ruger. Don't bother, they won't be marked as Remlins. Won't be hard to get them up to Ruger standards.
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Well, IIRC the Prussian Army was carrying bolt actions before 1850, and there were designs made decades before that. You can dig into that more if you want….The lever was an American darling, while the bolt action was a European thing initially.
I didn’t intend for folks to get lost in the sauce, merely to point out the POV discrepancies/angst when new choices happen. Some folks get upset at being offered more choices firearms. I’m not sure why, but it is.
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Well, IIRC the Prussian Army was carrying bolt actions before 1850, and there were designs made decades before that. You can dig into that more if you want….The lever was an American darling, while the bolt action was a European thing initially. Had to be pinfire. Were they repeaters ? I like both lever and bolt action rifles and have about an equal number of each in my safes.
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I just wish I had access to the 6,000 Remlins they have in permanent storage. They acquired them in the acquisition and will not sell them because they are Remlins Look for those to trickle out at a time convenient to Ruger. Don't bother, they won't be marked as Remlins. Won't be hard to get them up to Ruger standards. Down to Ruger standards. The lowest in the industry.
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Well, IIRC the Prussian Army was carrying bolt actions before 1850, and there were designs made decades before that. You can dig into that more if you want….The lever was an American darling, while the bolt action was a European thing initially. Had to be pinfire. Were they repeaters ? No idea….but you could call falling blocks ‘lever actions’, too. Different debate. Again, it’s beside the point. ….but there’s a spelling bee after the Super Bowl.
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Im a little bit perplexed as to why Marlin is working on the .350 in a lever gun, as a good bit of the factory loads aren't flat tipped. Actually he did address that. They working on a spiral fluted magazine similar to Remington 14/141. As odd as that is he said they are also working on a model 1894 Marlin in 9mm Luger. His reasoning was because none of the legislation currently out there goes after tubular magazines and they could have a 20 shot repeater Ok I was wrong. This is even dumber. Who the hell are they hiring to make these decisions? They claim it as being "innovation". They want to go in new directions with the brand. Maybe they'll find these ideas to be impractical? I was wrong when I said "he said they need to see 25,000 rounds on the market before they'll chamber a cartridge". My Son corrected me. He said what the man actually said was "they need a commitment from an ammo manufacturer for 25,000 rounds before they'll chamber a cartridge". That's why they're not interested in the 360 Buckhammer, there's no commitment to producing 25,000 rounds Innovation like the tacti-cool skeleton stock and AR style hand guards and threaded muzzles? Call me old but someone needs castrated for that abortion. I’m sorry but just look at the prices the old JM guns bring and tell me why they need to reinvent the brand? Yes Remington screwed the pooch while they owned it but it looks to me like Ruger’s going to do the same thing if there’s any truth to the BS that rep was giving you. Rant off. Well they have big plans but he made it clear as a company Marlin is still in its please the shareholders phase
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I didn’t intend for folks to get lost in the sauce, merely to point out the POV discrepancies/angst when new choices happen. Some folks get upset at being offered more choices firearms. I’m not sure why, but it is. It's nice to have choices no doubt.
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Im a little bit perplexed as to why Marlin is working on the .350 in a lever gun, as a good bit of the factory loads aren't flat tipped. Actually he did address that. They working on a spiral fluted magazine similar to Remington 14/141. As odd as that is he said they are also working on a model 1894 Marlin in 9mm Luger. His reasoning was because none of the legislation currently out there goes after tubular magazines and they could have a 20 shot repeater Ok I was wrong. This is even dumber. Who the hell are they hiring to make these decisions? They claim it as being "innovation". They want to go in new directions with the brand. Maybe they'll find these ideas to be impractical? I was wrong when I said "he said they need to see 25,000 rounds on the market before they'll chamber a cartridge". My Son corrected me. He said what the man actually said was "they need a commitment from an ammo manufacturer for 25,000 rounds before they'll chamber a cartridge". That's why they're not interested in the 360 Buckhammer, there's no commitment to producing 25,000 rounds Innovation like the tacti-cool skeleton stock and AR style hand guards and threaded muzzles? Call me old but someone needs castrated for that abortion. I’m sorry but just look at the prices the old JM guns bring and tell me why they need to reinvent the brand? Yes Remington screwed the pooch while they owned it but it looks to me like Ruger’s going to do the same thing if there’s any truth to the BS that rep was giving you. Rant off. Well they have big plans but he made it clear as a company Marlin is still in its please the shareholders phase As they should be.
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Well, IIRC the Prussian Army was carrying bolt actions before 1850, and there were designs made decades before that. You can dig into that more if you want….The lever was an American darling, while the bolt action was a European thing initially. Had to be pinfire. Were they repeaters ? I like both lever and bolt action rifles and have about an equal number of each in my safes. Dreyse needle guns. Single shot. Used IIRC a paper cartridge. The “needle” firing pin punched through the cartridge to strike a cap at the base of the bullet. Quite revolutionary, and probably started or at least inflamed an arms race in Yurrup. YouTuber Cap and Ball shoots a lot of those early breechloaders and get some surprisingly good results. Some, like the Werndl, were pretty good rifles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun
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Well, IIRC the Prussian Army was carrying bolt actions before 1850, and there were designs made decades before that. You can dig into that more if you want….The lever was an American darling, while the bolt action was a European thing initially. Had to be pinfire. Were they repeaters ? I like both lever and bolt action rifles and have about an equal number of each in my safes. Dreyse needle guns. Single shot. Used IIRC a paper cartridge. The “needle” firing pin punched through the cartridge to strike a cap at the base of the bullet. Quite revolutionary, and probably started or at least inflamed an arms race in Yurrup. YouTuber Cap and Ball shoots a lot of those early breechloaders and get some surprisingly good results. Some, like the Werndl, were pretty good rifles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun Ahhh yes, I had heard of those. Forgot about them. Memory getting bad with advancing age. Clicked your link. Ugly damn thing and only a single shot. I believe the lever action was the first repeating rifle using self contained metallic catridges.
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I would be interested in a Trapper model with a straight stock in a 444 caliber. In a walnut stock.
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