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Buddy of mine just sent me this.

What a monster.




https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/hunters-439-inch-roosevelt-elk-174643141.html

The comments are hilarious.




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Beauty!

Osky

Interesting Steve, thanks.

Wonder if he got it on the timberlands I used to work on. Saw some real monsters back in there, but permits were few and far between.

Good gracious.

Beast!

I noticed. Of course it's yahoo so what do expect in the libtard comments.

Beautiful elk!

I'm guessing somewhere in the vicinity of Orick.

Figure from this pic it was much of a 'hunt'?

The 'hunter' is an elk guide

Same guy has multiple elk records. I wonder how many of those are town elk...

That's not a bad guess, especially now seeing the picture longarm just posted. A little wider shot and I might know exactly where that pic was taken.

longarm, not sure I'd call that herd "town elk" as in the same light as the town deer we have here. Assuming that pic was taken where I think it was, they are able to access those lawns, Redwood National and State Parks, and private timberlands too. Not sure, as the story doesn't mention much other than it was a rifle hunt, if he shot it around that housing area or not. I had a coworker that lived in some houses there along the old highway, the elk would jump the 6' fences to get in to eat their lawns and landscaping. Maybe he got the permission of the residents there (according to our laws in Cali) and shot it in someone's yard? Or with that tag he had, maybe he knew when they'd be up on the timberlands across the way.?

I tried looking him up, as he mentioned doing wildlife biology, but didn't have much luck finding a particular agency. Do you know for sure he works for F&G? He might work for the Park, FS, or even for a timber company. We had them at the company I worked for.

Dang.

Valsdad,

That was what I was told. However, as I haven't confirmed that piece of info I have deleted it above. Searching his name I get a match in Blue Lake at an outfitters service there. Blue Lake is just inland a short drive from Arcata, so that kind of adds up.
I've been through Orick a few times, most recently two Novembers ago. I seen elk every single time in peoples yards. Search the town name and the first image that pops up is a street clogged with elk.

An exceptional animal, for sure. I'm cautious re heaping much praise on the hunter in this case. As a friend said, "it's like those guys that sit in their trucks all day in Bend, Oregon waiting for one of the famous bucks to cross the road.."

On the other hand, I might be completely wrong. So there's that..

I drew one of 25 NW Zone bull elk tags last year. CDFW gave successful applicants a list of phone numbers of land owners that would allow you to hunt on their property for a fee. I called most of them and discussed fees. After much deliberation I picked one land owner in the town of Orrick. He had a small cattle ranch along with 2 herds of elk. One herd had around 28 bulls and the other one consisted of cows, spikes and a few rag horns. After I drove up to talk to him my "hunt" was over. What occurred next was an elk "harvest".

At 78 years of age I was smart enough to realize that my days of elk hunting in wilderness areas and packing them out on my back were long over with. Also my house is paid for and I am debt free. This was not a high fence hunt and his eastern border was Redwood Natl Park.

So I paid his asking price of $4,000 and harvested a very nice bull elk at 0730 opening day. He has a very pretty 6X6 rack with 2 small cheaters on his skull so that officially makes him a 7X7. The rancher told me that this was possibly the largest body size bull ever shot on his ranch and he estimated he would go around 1,000 pounds on the hoof. Another hunter shot a bull with 8 points on each side but its body was noticeably smaller than the one I shot.

A local very large timber company is enrolled in the PLM program and a tag to have a chance to take a bull as large as the one in the photo above cost somewhere in the vicinity of $20,000. My free zer is full of very good elk meat and I gave my buddy that accompanied me a quarter of the elk.

That doesn't look like BuzzH in the pic??
#whatthahell

Dayuum

I can't say too much here, my son works for one of the largest timber owners, but like all California draws, premium tags mysteriously seem to get drawn by people involved in projects and programs with Calif Dept of Fish and Wildlife. The draw odds to the west of me, Marble Mtn rifle, are .03%...that's 3/10ths of 1 % and you need 19 points. And amazingly, biologists, CDFW employees, USFS Elk monitoring employees get drawn in astonishing numbers. Big donors to the Roosevelt and Rocky programs fare very well also. Save your money guys, it's a rigged game.

$20 grand ? Hardly worth it.

My favorite bull isn’t my biggest, but he’s the one I worked the hardest for. Mt. Washington Wilderness Area, miles from the nearest road, no horses, hunting solo.

But that’s just me.




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Thanks

I didn't find his Blue Lake info, found a Tim with his last name on an outfitter page from over in the San Bernadino area.

I'm rather familiar with the location of Blue Lake, having lived there for a bit while attending skuul.

In my researching last night, I see he took a P&Y archery record there, and guided an archer to another P&Y velvet record too. I'm guessing he has access to private land in the Orick area. I just looked at ownership on the OnX map, some places right to the N of town there that abut the Park, some bigger fields to the E of town too. I'm sure, "for a nominal service charge" the landowners might agree to allow trespass to get elk that are eating their grass.

If that's the case, I look at his exploits as not much different than folks in E WA that have locked up good pheasant and deer hunting areas by getting exclusive leases on farming areas and then "guiding" folks there. Or any other similar situation where there's little access for the DIY crowd. Probably not anything at all like a wilderness hunt, or even hunting in the NF and BLM around here or AZ like I do.

I've still got a contact or two in that area, perhaps I check to see if they know which agency he works for. As I mentioned, it might be one of the timber companies, as the article stated he works as a biologist during the spring. That would be when they do owl and murrelette surveys and such. He could then have the rest of the year for guiding.

I'm happy you drew that tag. At your age it seems you made a sensible choice. Enjoy that meat, I most certainly would!

Holy damn! That’s a heck of a bull. I’ve seen some big Roosevelts but nothing quite like that.

Congrats to the guy. It’s a cool rack no matter where he shot it.

No doubt, a beautiful animal for sure

That dude is too skinny to be Judman....

Dang, back in the 90's when I worked for the timber company, no one around our area ever got drawn, Was always somebody from SoCal that seemed to draw a tag.

I put in for the hunts near here, but figure I'll be even more decrepit by the time I should ever get lucky enough to draw one. And I'd have to get lucky and find one close to a road on the Devil's Garden.

I archery hunted the hell out of that myself and had the time of my life up there.

Some places the hunt is damn near over as soon as you draw the tag....

Roadkill?

My son has worked for a succession of owners and operators of the timberlands originally under the huge Ralph L Smith lands, known as the Roseburg Timberlands. Each time there is a sale, he gets thrown in on the sale going with the new owners fortunately. Unknown to most, regenerating timberland (a new term for cut over forest) is a hot item, it is the most carbon trading brownie points you can get. Valuable now, stumps before. Up until 8 or 9 years ago, PLM (landowner tags) tags were going for under 5,000, but now they have skyrocketed into the 20,000 bracket. The company used to save a landowner tag every year and give it to one of the employees at the Christmas party...ho, ho, ho, not anymore.
The point is, with tag prices going so high, the private land elk populations and trophies are rising sharply too, it's a fact, elk do better in logged over ground. Sadly, this is the future of hunting for our grandkids. Just two miles north of the flintshack, a rancher sells two Roosevelt antler tags to high bidder, last year they went for 12,000 each....to shoot an elk in sight of the highway in the pasture (be careful Sir, don't shoot the angus). What a challenge.
I like to call it the Euro style hunt.

Appreciate your insight, flintlocke.

All I know, if things go as they plan, my friends are soon to close on a nice property a few hundred miles or so north of here in OR that comes with a couple of landowner elk tags.

I can never seem to get drawn around here, so I won't mind going up there if they do get the property, and shooting a nice tasty cow in their hayfield.

Good eats, Valsdad!

Brother Geno,
The best elk in the world is the one you shoot in your neighbors pasture! extra gooder if you can load it with the tractor!

I love owning your emotions bitch boy Brian. Do you dream about me? How many times a day do you think about me?

It is Friday so I suppose you’re starting early. Let the liquid courage flow!! Haha ..

I've never been "lucky" enough to get one out in the hills. Miles from a road, without a horse or vehicle to get it out. Had bulls close enough to hit with my arrow.........but had a cow tag.

Maybe I wasn't unlucky after all???

I kinda dreaded the pack out. Even when younger. Now, 20+ years have passed and my back is in way worse shape.

Big Stick is that you? hahahahhahahahahaha

High $ tags + low availability yielding bigger herds..
Well, good. Going to need that when the wolves get fully entrenched. I can't imagine any effective way to control wolf population in the Coast Range

My biitch, nows when you brag about early retirement, and spending 80% of retirement drunk and biitching on the web. Congratulations? Haha

I'm all ok with hunting to the best of our physical abilities.
What I left out of the above rambling tale, one of last years hunters, a fit looking fellow at the ranch north of me, paid the farmer extra to use his backhoe to tote the dead elk from the field, to a nearby timbered hillside...where they carefully posed the elk for a photo shoot in the 'boonies'. If the hunter hadn't appeared fit, I would never have thought a thing about it.

LAME

Humboldt county has HUGE elk.

They wander in and out of the redwood national park.

BMT

Same bull, different time of year. Looks to be also in town..

Thanks Jeff



The pic above is from the ranch I hunt in Humboldt County

The elk are huge.

The ranch is direct south of Redwood National Park

Cool.

Lot of that land South of the park is Green Diamond timber. Is the ranch you hunt on an inholding within their lands? I worked on some of that land almost 30 years ago. Cool places in there. And BIG ASS trees.

I've killed 4 bulls over the years - in my brother's alfalfa fields.
My back doesn't hurt when Johnnie (Deere) does the lifting.
Alfalfa fed elk is some GREAT eating!

Steve: That is indeed, incredible!
Good for that dedicated Elk Hunter.
And, again, the comments are worth perusing.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Quite a headfull. The first time I got a shot at an R, up in the Olympics, it gave that same impression - almost too big for the body. Turned out to be past prime, but still a lot of elk and had a rough time getting it out. That's not happening any longer.

In later years when we lived up in the Gila and had a pasture pond on the edge of the timber, it was unusual joy to watch them move through to water - sometimes 80 or 90 a day. Always some nice NM bulls, but no forms like some of those pictured.

Looks like there’s some red deer blood in his lineage. Monster. i

That bull is a toad, wow.