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It is not the forum's job to protect the ignorant. And if someone can't learn from Stick (assuming they're a beginner/low experience to begin with) then they're likely going to struggle even if he was 100% Queen's English in his posts.

No. The 80 shoots a little slower, but the wind difference between the 2 is so close to zero as to be irrelevant.

You should try real target shooting sometime instead of just busting Chevy-sized rocks.

I shoot 88 quite well out of a 22-250 chamber. with an eight twist don't know about the same twist in an arc. never tried it in a 5.56 with 80's or 88's I do shot a lot of 75's in such chambered I do have them twisted down to a 7

You want to ban people you don’t agree with you to protect the uninformed from themselves?

AOC, that you? Dr Fauci? Hillary? Hello? Hello??

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Luckily for you Crying Kchunts,Imagination and Pretend are free. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!................

Come on, Fug Stick, show us your "numbers" that prove your point. I know, it's difficult to get numbers when your target is 200 MOA and your 1/4 MOA rifle shoots 4 MOA.

VELOCITY NUMBERS

Rifle 20" Saturn/Liberty Barreled AR15.

Hornady Factory 75 ELD-Match #81541 Lot# 3234519
Factory Advertised Velocity (24" Test Barrel) 3075 FPS

Test One
Shooting from indoors 65 Degree Building. Outdoor Conditions Blue Cold and Heavy Fog.

Three Rounds Fired: Average Velocity: 2949 FPS SD: 4.8 (I Believe, I pitched that note with SD Numbers)

Test Two
Shooting from indoors 65 Degree Building. Nice clear February day, app 50 degrees outdoors.

Five Round Fired: Average Velocity: 2964 FPS SD: 5.2

Test Three
My reloads:
Hornady 75 ELD-M Bullets
Hornady Once Fired Brass
Remington 7.5 BR Primers
Powder CFE 223
Charge: 30.2

Shooting from indoors 65 Degree Building. Nice clear February day app 50 degrees out doors.
Five Rounds Fired: Average Velocity: 2887 FPS SD: 7.6

This was the highest Velocity Load listed in the Hodgdon Load Data with a 75 grain bullet. It was listed pretty much duplicating the Factory Hornady 75 ELD-M Velocity of (3075 FPS with a 24" Barrel). Hodgdon listed 30.2 Grains of CFE 223 at (3074 FPS from a 24" Test Barrel). Apparently my lot of CFE 223 is slow. I have room in the case for more powder, so I am sure that I can wind it up a little more. NOTE: I will be staying below factory velocity's. I am getting swipe marks on pretty much all of my factory brass. The factory loads are loaded warm. The Primer pockets appear to me to be a little loose. Not trashed, but not snug either. I will check this a little closer shortly. I have 50 rounds of factory ammunition left. I plan to pull the Bullets on all of it, and reload it with loads light enough to not be getting swipe marks. This should give me a handle on if the factory loads are loosening up the primer pockets, or if the Hornady Primer Pockets are not real snug to start with. I would like to get several reloads out of these cases while I am waiting for Brass to show up on the shelf.

Hornady Factory 88 ELD-Match #81543 Lot# 3240011
Factory Advertised Velocity (24" Test Barrel) 2820 FPS

Test One
Five Rounds Fired: Average Velocity: 2700 FPS SD: 14.9 ( Actual Garman Velocity Numbers 2699.9)

So Far I have not came across any of the 62 ELD-VT Ammunition to test.
I do however have a box of the 62 ELD-VT Bullets to load. Two of my local dealers have gotten them in.

Which Load to use will depend on what the shooter is doing. I tend to agree with Big Stick, for what I do the 75 ELD-Match Bullet is a best choice. Run the Numbers and compare the results. Both the Drop and Wind numbers are good. However I have lots of the Berger 80 VLD's and Hornady 80 A Max bullets for my F-Class Bolt Gun in 223 Remington that I need to be using up. I do have a new box of 80 ELD-M bullets to work with also. I also need to test the new 62 ELD-VT Bullets.

My load development will probably be slowed down due to my Compass Lake 6.5 Grendel Barrel being delivered last week. One of the last ones out the door to the public. I will have it up and running this afternoon. I need to be loading for it also.

Bob R

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Just sayin'.............

how does the 22 ARC stack up against the 22 BR in a bolt gun when running the same twist..

I'm looking at it a 22 ARC is basically a 22 PPC so it would fall just a bit short of the BR?

Very much birds of a feather,performance wise. Hint.




ARC is an Improved PPC,which helps the cause. The ARC/Grendel plays nice in both Krunchenticker boltfaces,as well as their mag confines. Hint.



6 PPC/6 ARC. Hint.



Deviations of the Theme. Hint.



Just sayin'.................