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I use what has been working for years also. I've got one wildcatt it's a 6.5x06. Have never had a AI cartridge have never seen a need for one. Speaking of fast twist and heavy bullets, I don't go that route either. If I wanted to shoot say 60 gr or heavier bullet's I would not get a 22 cal rifle. No sir, I'd get a 243. Then if I wanted to shoot heavier than 100gr bullets, I'd step up to a 25 cal rifle.
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My Ackley experience has been with the 260 AI & current 223 AI (heavy p/dog 9 twist set up)
First thing I'd look at is die selection
223 AI are common.....280 AI also
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So, because I too wish to play with the cool kids, I think I would like to have a fast(er) twisted .22 for fun and games.
Now , I have dies and brass for the 223.....and naturally , I also have brass ( potentially ) brass for the Ackley. I now have a set of dies for the ackley, so that's not really a consideration.
My question is, those who have the Ackley 223 would you do it again?
I also think the 22 Creed is a cooler option, just not what is in the cards at this time.
BTW : I have the action and the 8 twist barrel..... You are an AMAZINGLY Dumb Fhuqker. Hint.........
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Dies are easy you can get a FL sizing made for whatever you want and if you have your own reamers a seater from a blank. Ai's and Wildcats aren't for everybody I guess.
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Dies are easy you can get a FL sizing made for whatever you want and if you have your own reamers a seater from a blank. Ai's and Wildcats aren't for everybody I guess. Talking of economics...once you spend $200+ for dies to get up & running The benefits of an AI or Wildcat cartridge dwindle fast About 2007 when David Tubb introduced the 6XC...had to have one Built an 8 twist Pac Nor barrel screwed a Savage s/shot action on it Great LR p/dog killer on 38 grs of powder with an 87 V Max Dies were a chore at that time Yes..AI & Wildcats aren't for everyone
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Brokedick Stories from CLUELESS Fhuqks,are funnier than schit. Hint. You couldn't pick the XC out of the crowd. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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To each his own on dies, and decent quality Type S bushing die set is gonna be atleast 200.00 -300.00. Bushing dies are all i will own anymore started that atleast 10 years ago my needs are to control nk and when lots vary on brass its almost a must in wildcating. Peoples requirements are different but I dont ever let dies pick my caliber choices if I did I wouldn't have half the rifles I do.
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Brokedick Stories from CLUELESS Fhuqks,are funnier than schit. Hint. You couldn't pick the XC out of the crowd. Hint. Fhuqking LAUGHING!............ HINT
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Fireing pin holes on rem. don't need to be bushed, it's just a sales gimmick.
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Fireing pin holes on rem. don't need to be bushed, it's just a sales gimmick. I know catered primers are just a sales gimmick.
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The irony is that AI will allow more firings of brass. My 260AI has approx. 6% more case capacity albeit I do not load 6% more. To AI the smaller calibers is a personal choice and you will not get the value if you sell. MTG
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I prefer short barreled rifles and that is one more reason to chamber an AI. You can make up some, if not all of the velocity you loose between a 20" barrel and a 24" barrel.
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Thanks to all for sharing your perspectives. ... I appreciate the insight.
The saga continues......
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I have a 700 ADL in a short action that pretty much any reload or factory loading would make primers look like extreme over pressure. Sent to Jon Beanland and had the bolt bushed. Never had another issue. It was about 100.00 and a two week turnaround.
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