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It looks to me like over the years some powders were made by more than one company (made, not relabeled and sold).

I think there are "value added" mixes done by some resellers.

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Did you know the secret to Guinness beer is adding back a bit of the older “ sour” batch.

The best results stay in Ireland I been told.


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exlax is cheaper



Originally Posted by Angus1895
Did you know the secret to Guinness beer is adding back a bit of the older “ sour” batch.

The best results stay in Ireland I been told.

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Originally Posted by Angus1895
Did you know the secret to Guinness beer is adding back a bit of the older “ sour” batch.

The best results stay in Ireland I been told.

Am not surprised--but in general beer is better where it's made, rather than after being shipped. Have sipped Guinness in various places, including Ireland (a half-mile from the brewery in Dublin), but had it on tap for the first time in Norway, where it was also excellent, not surprising since it ain't that far from Ireland. Like it on tap more than canned.

Have also had the same experience with Pilsner Urquell in the Czech Republic (or as its not now called Czechia), versus bottled here.

But both Ireland and Czechia have a bunch of other great beers!


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I'm certain I'd love Czech beers on location, given how much I like the version I can get here.

Cask conditioned bitter in London was wonderful, as were the various beers I had in Bavaria.

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Originally Posted by Angus1895
Did you know the secret to Guinness beer is adding back a bit of the older “ sour” batch.

The best results stay in Ireland I been told.

Having had Guinness both in the US and in Ireland it is much better in Ireland.

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
1982! Wow!


Yep. Started off with a (now called) Classic Lee Loader in the good ol' 30-06. Didn't like the notion of using a hammer to prime the cases with the Lee Loader so got an RCBS hand priming tool. As you know the Lee Loader came with a powder dipper but had to get a powder scale and trickler to weigh each charge. Lastly I set up a big c-clamp in a fixture, using the Lee Loader, to seat the bullets ..... poor man's Arbor press.

Yeah the training wheels have been off for quite some time now.

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Methinks "1982! Wow!" does not mean what you think it means.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Methinks "1982! Wow!" does not mean what you think it means.

Whether a hobby or profession, 40 years IS a significant period of time to devote to something. Regardless of what ANYONE says.

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exlax is cheaper



Originally Posted by Angus1895
Did you know the secret to Guinness beer is adding back a bit of the older “ sour” batch.

The best results stay in Ireland I been told.

Exlax , it may be cheaper. But I"be never gotten home looking forward to a nice glass of it.


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Originally Posted by CGPAUL
You have about 55,000 PSI going off three inches in front of your nose. I would not ASSUME anyone "knows" one powder is exactly the same as another...but work up a load with each as you would another.

But it`s your nose.
Lot to Lot variations of the exact same powder can create issues the same also. No one seems to care about that very much either.


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I had an 8 pounder of 760 here and two 1lb jugs of 414.

Side by side, they looked different but I mixed them together anyways and kept on trucking with a 10 pounder of 760. smile

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Used to drink drink Murphy's but have not seen it in a while.

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
1982! Wow!
Just a puppy.

How about 1958....

But I was just a lad then, now an old fart.... laugh

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Originally Posted by CGPAUL
Glad to hear that. In my time shooting Hi Power, while on the shooting line, I had two rifles let go, one two points down from me. Exciting has all the foreend parts landed near us. The grapevine later explained the shooter had loaded what was supposed to be a powder exactly the same as he had been using. Hearsay I know, but I don`t take anything for granted.
We were lucky in some ways. One lot of 2520 was over 200 fps slower than the previous lot. I probably was not smart enough at the time, to reduce and check over Chrono. I probably loaded the same or .5 grain less in 223 and shot it over the Oehler and was lucky it was slow.


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Methinks "1982! Wow!" does not mean what you think it means.

Whether a hobby or profession, 40 years IS a significant period of time to devote to something. Regardless of what ANYONE says.

I think that you missed the point. Coming across as a pompous ass doesn't help your case, even if your superior process produces elegant solutions.

Or so it seems to me.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Methinks "1982! Wow!" does not mean what you think it means.

Whether a hobby or profession, 40 years IS a significant period of time to devote to something. Regardless of what ANYONE says.

I think that you missed the point. Coming across as a pompous ass doesn't help your case, even if your superior process produces elegant solutions.

Or so it seems to me.

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Not all time is created equal, so to speak. One guy may learn and acquire the same experience in 1 year, that another guy does in 10.

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No clue exactly when I started. I know it was in my teens and still in school. Very likely about the late 70s.

It doesn't matter much. Still learn every day. And some never learn no matter the years.


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Originally Posted by rost495
No clue exactly when I started. I know it was in my teens and still in school. Very likely about the late 70s.

It doesn't matter much. Still learn every day. And some never learn no matter the years.

Exactly.

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