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Anyone have one in a 300 wsm? Thoughts, Weight, hotdogs it shoot? I'm starting to think the 300 wsm is a good idea in the right rifle, just a matter of finding the right rifle.
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Mine is great with ketchup.
300 WSM is about my limit for recoil tolerance in the Montana platform. The ascent is just more of a good thing; although maybe too much of a good thing without the brake. YMMV.
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The 300 WSM is very much a great cartridge in the right rifle. I have three rifles in 300 WSM. One is dialed in for 155 Scenar’s @ 3285 fps. It weighs 7.5 lbs. The other is set up for 165 Accubonds @ 3050 fps. It weighs 7 lbs.
I don’t much notice the recoil on either. I can increase recoil, but that’s not the goal. Just saying the cartridge is the perfect choice for my hunting. It’s just a revved up 308. What’s not to like?
Those two rifles carry light & recoil is not an issue. I would not be at all apprehensive with a rifle as light as 6.5 lb. I do not use muzzle brakes.
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Would you consider a 30.06? Reasons are, it has the 84l action rather than the 8400, it will be lighter. Also holds 1 more round than the wsm, but most important is feeding. Those short, fats can be a bit tricky, especially in a crf action. It doesnt mean it wont feed, most do, they are just a bit more prone is all. Just something to keep in mind is all.
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wyo, that is what my issue has been, an sa in a 300 win mag type cartridge would be the ultimate. Seems like they may not make one. I'm not at all afraid of a 300 win mag, and maybe thats what I just need to do. Bso which one is lighter, kimber ascent or weatherby UL. Thanks ak, maybe you should sell me youre montana, but... I might want lighter
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The 300 WSM is very much a great cartridge in the right rifle. I have three rifles in 300 WSM. One is dialed in for 155 Scenar’s @ 3285 fps. It weighs 7.5 lbs. The other is set up for 165 Accubonds @ 3050 fps. It weighs 7 lbs.
I don’t much notice the recoil on either. I can increase recoil, but that’s not the goal. Just saying the cartridge is the perfect choice for my hunting. It’s just a revved up 308. What’s not to like?
Those two rifles carry light & recoil is not an issue. I would not be at all apprehensive with a rifle as light as 6.5 lb. I do not use muzzle brakes. 7 lbs or under would it! I don't use muzzle breaks either.
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actually AK, im almost thinking, you were subtle, but im thinking ascent. Although, ula nula would be ok too.
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The 300 WSM is very much a great cartridge in the right rifle. I have three rifles in 300 WSM. One is dialed in for 155 Scenar’s @ 3285 fps. It weighs 7.5 lbs. The other is set up for 165 Accubonds @ 3050 fps. It weighs 7 lbs.
I don’t much notice the recoil on either. I can increase recoil, but that’s not the goal. Just saying the cartridge is the perfect choice for my hunting. It’s just a revved up 308. What’s not to like?
Those two rifles carry light & recoil is not an issue. I would not be at all apprehensive with a rifle as light as 6.5 lb. I do not use muzzle brakes. Are those weights with scope and mounts?
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I dont believe mountain ascents come in magnum calibers. Mine was an 06, vxll 3x9 in talleys. 6 1/2 pounds all up. If you want a 300 wsm, it will be a montana, and with 3x9 scope and talleyes, probably 7 3/4 to 8 pounds all up Im guessing. I believe that weight would be close to a wby ulw in a magnum caliber. Wby, like kimber have 2 size actions, 6 lug or 9 lug. Large action adds about a pound to either of them. Was that confusing enough ? Lol. Hope that helps.
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Also PSH, Im sure you have looked at Weatherbys website. Since Adam took over, they have brought out many new products geared toward mountain hunting, both in rifles, and calibers. Their will be more options with wby over kimber but some are a bit spendy. I like the story of weatherby, I like the cartridges of wby, and their rifles have always been a quality product. We are spoiled at all of the great rifles available today. Not taking away from pre 64's, early brownings, etc.
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My mistake, sorry guys. I was going from memmory, probably should have checked before answering. Is your 7 mag scoped? If so, what type scope, mounts, and what does it weigh all up? Just curious
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I have owned a couple Kimber Montana's chambered in .300 WSM and one chambered in .300 Win, I liked the shorter action on the WSM's much better and they all feed/extracted/ejected like butter....Recoil? For me was a none-issue with any of them, I mostly sold all my Magnum chambered rifles because I am a reloader and those cartridges are such powder hawgs....Good luck....Hb
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I'll be the first wuss to state the obvious: a 7-7.5 lb Kimber in 300 WSM recoils way more than I'm comfortable with. The load my 7 lb Kimber MT liked was 65 gr H 4350 under a Nos AB for 2950. I guarantee that rifle recoils more than a bit. To me, the 300 WSM in any Kimber Montana is too much cartridge for this wuss. I had 2 others in Win SS m70 and found they were more tolerable but weighed almost 8.5 lbs.
I've also had 2 Kimber 30-06 and found them with too much recoil with a 180 gr going 2800 in a 7 lb rifle. To me, the Montana tops out at the 270 with max 150 gr loads. 130s are very doable at max velocity.
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Ive wanted one in 708 for so long...never could find one tho Doubt I ever will, seems Kimber is hellbent on getting rid of rifle line.
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I'd be curious as well tx ram as to what the 7 mag is all up if you got the chance and had a scale. I appreciate all the thoughts guys. Recoil has never been much of an issue for me with the exception of an old browning bbr in 338 that a buddy had. That rifle did not fit me well and just flat knocked the crap out of me. The 338 variations I have don't do that to me.
Ya wyo, I never should have let my weatherby ul in 280 go. That rifle was just fun to carry. I really don't need another rifle, but I just got into a think session on what would be the ultimate elk rifle. It is tough to justify since I'm elk cartridge heavy, but, others can always go if need be, lol.
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I don’t have any mounts or a scope on it, but can weigh the bare rifle for you guys. Gimme a couple of days and will post that here.
I bought this one (RMEF banquet rifle, has some engraving stating such) just cause it was a really good deal. I would much prefer a 7wsm version but they were not made that I am aware of. i would also love to have one in 7mm-08, but haven’t seen one for sale in past couple of years. I have Montanas in both of those chamberings, but the Mtn Ascent is a little bit more of a good thing! I did buy a 6.5cm Mtn Ascent off here a couple of years ago and really like it (except not a huge fan of the coated stocks).
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I just bought a 6.5 CM Kimber Hunter Pro, & by the time I remove the filling from the buttstock, it will be very close the Ascent in weight, & while the stock may not be quite as sophisticated as the Ascent stock, it will do.
And I have an original Rem 700 Ti in 7-08 & actually, the fit of the Rem is a little better for me than the Kimber.
And a 280 that goes 6lb, 15oz, scoped.................so I have light, fairly well covered for most purposes.
I'm done with light weight magnums, & except for 338 or bigger, where they are actually needed, I'm done with magnums altogether & see no reason for a 300 unless you are hunting big bear...................everything else in NA & most African plains game can easily be taken with a standard cartridge.
Ultralight guns & magnum calibers are just a flat NOGO for me, BTDT.
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I too have a Mtn Ascent in 7 RM. It weighs 8lbs 2.5 oz with a Burris Veracity 2-10×42 and Talley Lightweights. Bare rifle was 6lbs 9oz if I recall accurately. I have it written down some place.....
As an aside, with the brake it recoils about like a 243. Without the brake is very doable.
I'm 100% on board with MM on flyweight magnum rifles. I don't find an 8lb 7 RM any more recoil than my 7lb 270 with 150s. With the brake it's ridiculously easy on the shoulder. Ears, not so much.
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You're right, an 8lb, 7 mag is not really objectionable, but it's heavier than I want to lug around the mountains.
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