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Don't want to OD on Fenty? Don't use. It's that simple. The dead are virtually all dopers. It's entirely Darwinian.

Ha, now you're a crazy Conspiracy Theorists. You've been listening to eyeball too much.

Oregon's over ran with liberals what else do you expect..

I’ve been reading that something like >90% of the fentanyl now contains meclazine (iirc), a high power horse tranquilizer which causes tissue necrosis, it’s devastating to the addict from day 1….but it doesn’t make sense to me! No drug dealer or manufacturer of illicit drugs is going to be adding something to their product that makes the high more intense and last longer. Drug dealers and manufacturers cut their drugs to make them weaker forcing the addict to buy more drugs more often. By adding meclazine I heard that it allows the addict to use 1/2 or 1/3 as much for the same high….that’s NOT anything that any drug dealer would do and it is not something that any illicit drug maker would do, it’s goes against everything that a dealer tries to do. Why would a manufacturer want to decrease the demand for their product by making it stronger and last longer?…they would NEVER DO THAT!

Adding meclazine to a dangerously addictive drug does not make sense to me from the point of view of the manufacturer….

If the expensive part is the drug - you'll add it to whatever you can to make 5lbs suddenly look like 10lbs for less cost. It's less about getting someone to buy more but having more to buy for less.

And drug dealers, believe it or not, have to compete with other drug dealers - making the high "better" is actually marketing. Making it better for less money is entrepreneurship.

It's cliche but watch the first 2 seasons of The Wire. It's so good that when it came out both the cops AND criminals were taking notes on how to better do their 1/2 of the deal. Seriously.

I’ve been reading that something like >90% of the fentanyl now contains meclazine (iirc), a high power horse tranquilizer which causes tissue necrosis, it’s devastating to the addict from day 1….but it doesn’t make sense to me! No drug dealer or manufacturer of illicit drugs is going to be adding something to their product that makes the high more intense and last longer. Drug dealers and manufacturers cut their drugs to make them weaker forcing the addict to buy more drugs more often. By adding meclazine I heard that it allows the addict to use 1/2 or 1/3 as much for the same high….that’s NOT anything that any drug dealer would do and it is not something that any illicit drug maker would do, it’s goes against everything that a dealer tries to do. Why would a manufacturer want to decrease the demand for their product by making it stronger and last longer?…they would NEVER DO THAT!

Adding meclazine to a dangerously addictive drug does not make sense to me from the point of view of the manufacturer….

An Or resident here, but in the completely pure red east side. Please don't categorize the whole state.

Yes. Legalize hard drug possession and use, and they will come. Seems like a no brainer to me. Can't drink a beer with one's fish n chips in the park, but it's OK to inject, smoke, and snort anywhere in town. Presently, there is a move afoot to make use illegal though while on public transportation. I don't know why, since it's fine everywhere else.

I think Portland also has some downtown safe facilities where one can practice with free needles, tin foil, and lighters unmolested in a toasty dry environment with medical standing by. Talk about facilitation!

Didn't help either when downtown was given to ANTIFA after Trump's election. It's no wonder those of us in the rest of the state avoid going there, and once profitable businesses are vacating in droves.

I'm not one that supports packing around those reversal products either. If one wants to risk doing themselves in, get out of their way. Maybe such will eventually be a self-rectifying issue.

Sadly, there are enough votes in the crowded blue realm (Portland, Salem, Corvallis, Eugene, and drug infused Medford to the south) to carry the state.


In our family we lost a nephew a couple years back to some hopped up heroin in Va. When his roomies discovered the body, they borrowed his credit cards and went out to party.

Lies. If you decriminalize hard drug sales, use and possession everything gets better not worse. Liberals aren’t stupid, duh.

Don't want to OD on Fenty? Don't use. It's that simple. The dead are virtually all dopers. It's entirely Darwinian.

That’s deep….helpful, insightful and deep. With that amount of mental acuity I can’t believe that the drug problem hasn’t been eradicated.🙄

They create problems and then expect us all to need to re elect them to take care and administer the problems they create.

Bet all the dead ones voted for Biden

In addition, dead addicts aren't buying drugs.
I've wondered about this more than once. It doesn't make sense for cartels to make the stuff so strong. It's counterproductive. What am I missing? The only thing that makes sense is that the Chinese are deliberately trying to create zombies, not make money. It's warfare, not for profit.

I’ve been reading that something like >90% of the fentanyl now contains meclazine (iirc), a high power horse tranquilizer which causes tissue necrosis, it’s devastating to the addict from day 1….but it doesn’t make sense to me! No drug dealer or manufacturer of illicit drugs is going to be adding something to their product that makes the high more intense and last longer. Drug dealers and manufacturers cut their drugs to make them weaker forcing the addict to buy more drugs more often. By adding meclazine I heard that it allows the addict to use 1/2 or 1/3 as much for the same high….that’s NOT anything that any drug dealer would do and it is not something that any illicit drug maker would do, it’s goes against everything that a dealer tries to do. Why would a manufacturer want to decrease the demand for their product by making it stronger and last longer?…they would NEVER DO THAT!

Adding meclazine to a dangerously addictive drug does not make sense to me from the point of view of the manufacturer….

Aces,

they may be adding something like a horse tranq, but it's not meclizine.

Meclizine is a motion sickness medicine used by many folks.

Might be something along the lines of ketamine?