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" The weaver stance is a highly regarded shooting method" Man, I don't know what shooting discipline you've been involved in, but I haven't seen a serious pistol or revolver shooter using the weaver stance since the late 70's. That particular type stance is limiting in so many ways it petered out long ago. You need to do some research, probably think a 6.5 Creed kills better than any of them "old" calibers lol. The only advantage of the isosceles vs Weaver stance, is the full exposure of body armor during a gun fight (the Weaver exposes a bit of the side). So if you're not planning on wearing body armor, then the Weaver will expose less of you vitals. But it has been used for years (as you stated) for a good reason, but to each their own. This thread isn't about arguing shooting technique, it's about a youth and his Dad out having a good time and enjoying the outdoors.
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I started out as a mediocre handgun shooter. The one thing that really upped my game, was when I finally had that lightbulb moment, about focus on the front sight until the shot breaks. I would alight the sights, focus on the target, and squeeze the trigger...not so good.
Sight alignment and trigger control will deliver accuracy in any position, even laying on your side shooting under a vehicle.
It might help to only load 5 or 6 rounds in the magazine. He looked like a little fatigue was setting in by the time he got through the full magazine. Only loading a few rounds gives muscles a little break, and also means more training/muscle memory in releasing magazines, loading magazines, inserting magazines etc. Also time for a little critique and thinking about what just happened.
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Just bought them some non scratched glasses Dwayne.
Got an extra set of muffs too.
I am MAGA.
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" The weaver stance is a highly regarded shooting method" Man, I don't know what shooting discipline you've been involved in, but I haven't seen a serious pistol or revolver shooter using the weaver stance since the late 70's. That particular type stance is limiting in so many ways it petered out long ago. You need to do some research, probably think a 6.5 Creed kills better than any of them "old" calibers lol. The only advantage of the isosceles vs Weaver stance, is the full exposure of body armor during a gun fight (the Weaver exposes a bit of the side). So if you're not planning on wearing body armor, then the Weaver will expose less of you vitals. But it has been used for years (as you stated) for a good reason, but to each their own. This thread isn't about arguing shooting technique, it's about a youth and his Dad out having a good time and enjoying the outdoors. Only a retard like you would engage in this argument in Jim’s good thread. Fugk off, loser. LOL
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" The weaver stance is a highly regarded shooting method" Man, I don't know what shooting discipline you've been involved in, but I haven't seen a serious pistol or revolver shooter using the weaver stance since the late 70's. That particular type stance is limiting in so many ways it petered out long ago. You need to do some research, probably think a 6.5 Creed kills better than any of them "old" calibers lol. The only advantage of the isosceles vs Weaver stance, is the full exposure of body armor during a gun fight (the Weaver exposes a bit of the side). So if you're not planning on wearing body armor, then the Weaver will expose less of you vitals. But it has been used for years (as you stated) for a good reason, but to each their own. This thread isn't about arguing shooting technique, it's about a youth and his Dad out having a good time and enjoying the outdoors. Yet here you are arguing about shooting technique in this thread. The lack of introspection made for a good laugh. Posting a video of shooting on a shooting site is going to get some advice as sure as the sun rises. Some good and some not so good. Jimmy even thanked a few posters and Rick Bin made some money$. Pretty good thread.
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Picked up some 9 em em on sale.
Left one box for any Wizzards.
A Sig 365 Macro ALMOST followed me home.
Have to go home and see what's left in my birthday money.
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Just bought them some non scratched glasses Dwayne.
Got an extra set of muffs too. Jim; Most excellent sir!! On the Walker thing, up here we could not find #10 caps for the last few years. Sort of the same situation with .410 in that when a cousin was going to pick one up, I suggested he find some .410 shells first as they were worth more than the shotgun he was going to buy!! Strange days for components is all and you'd hate to find a nice BP revolver and not be able to have it make smoke! I've shot BP since I convinced my Dad to register a .36 Navy copy in his name when I was in my teens. The .36 Navy revolvers are a hoot to play with too by the way Jim, even my Blackhawk didn't "point" like that thing did somehow. Best to you all in your family shooting adventures. Dwayne PS; Us old guys love the pictures and videos so if you're so inclined to post and share, I for one always appreciate seeing the next shift getting a good start.
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Great video! Thanks for sharing. I clearly remember my own Dad coaching me along when I was your son's age. Building great memories with your son, there. Also, Jag's post about planting a tree cracked me up 
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TRIVIA CONTEST !!!
Let's say you're out there on Jim's pasture with a 30/06. You have the rifle set perfectly level, as is the ground. On the end of the barrel you have a gizmo holding a bullet just like the one in the chamber. Upon firing, said gizmo releases the bullet at the exact instant that the fired bullet leaves the barrel. Which bullet hits the ground first?
First correct answer gets to use Tarqueen is a Twatwaffle for a sign line.
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TRIVIA CONTEST !!!
Let's say you're out there on Jim's pasture with a 30/06. You have the rifle set perfectly level, as is the ground. On the end of the barrel you have a gizmo holding a bullet just like the one in the chamber. Upon firing, said gizmo releases the bullet at the exact instant that the fired bullet leaves the barrel. Which bullet hits the ground first?
First correct answer gets to use Tarqueen is a Twatwaffle for a sign line. Same time
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What a crap show this has turned into...all over taking a kid shooting!
JC is doing something right and they had a good time. Enough said.
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TRIVIA CONTEST !!!
Let's say you're out there on Jim's pasture with a 30/06. You have the rifle set perfectly level, as is the ground. On the end of the barrel you have a gizmo holding a bullet just like the one in the chamber. Upon firing, said gizmo releases the bullet at the exact instant that the fired bullet leaves the barrel. Which bullet hits the ground first?
First correct answer gets to use Tarqueen is a Twatwaffle for a sign line. Same time We have a winner.
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TSRA-Life
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On the day Desert Storm began.
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What a crap show this has turned into...all over taking a kid shooting!
JC is doing something right and they had a good time. Enough said. Personally I blame the OP, Conrad, for this mess. He's the one who went to town and bought even more 9mm to keep stirring the Campfire flames.
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12.50 a box is as cheap as I can get it....so I got some.
Ammo Inc is good stuff for me.
Richard even found most of the brass.
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12.50 a box is as cheap as I can get it....so I got some.
Ammo Inc is good stuff for me.
Richard even found most of the brass. Did you get a reloading setup going? 9mm is a lot easier to load for those with smaller hands but for 12.50/box it's going to be hard to beat. .22 Rimfire is even cheaper. 
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Hot Damn! The Band is getting back together.😁 Work on his stance JC.
Not saying it to bust your chops at all.
Saying it because of who I was long ago.
Teach coach mentor NCO type of schit...
Goes against my nature to not try and improve others performance.
Gotta break bad trends before it gets ingrained 👍🏻
Left foot forward
Right foot back.
Just enough to get oblique and not squared to tgt.
Not over exaggerated stance per that.
Maybe 4 to 6 inches at most right toe behind left toe.
Natural hip wide spacing of feet.
Enough to get body oblique to tgt and allow aiming and pointing over strong arm only.
Body kinda oblique towards target with left side a little more forward than right.
Hard to explain in writing
But easy to do in person, especially with a young person wanting to learn and shoot.
Strong arm orientated towards tgt pointkng and aiming over its plane thru sights from the right side body being rear oblique.
Weak arm very slight bend to allow Strong arm forward thrust.
And a little forward lean from waist up (not over exaggerated )
He needs to get rid of the body squared to target and leaned back mode.
Once he gains muscle memory of body stance it will become 2nd nature.
His striker fired pistol grip per his hands actually ( "glock grip") looks good from what can be seen.
Have to get upclose and personal to really see it and show corrections if needed.
He might not have enough counter opposing force in his weak hand versus his strong hand forward force in his grip and the glock was biting him per the trigger guard.
Dunno....
Wasn't their watching him shoot standing on left side about 3 ft from him.
Or his lower 3 fingers per stong hand on grip were loosening up per more shots than intial ones.
Or might not have enough meat per his weak hand fill8ng in the grip on open left side of it that his strong hand can't cover nor ever will.
Grip is why his shots were going all over and the stance being poor form
But he also doesn't have adult size hands yet.
Dry fire practice will help him with stance, grip, sight picture, trigger squeeze and muscle memory overall.
I have not meant any degradation by this post.
Unlike what can be seen per other's little fuuked up innuendo shots.
Wish my dad was like you back when.
I might have actually liked the prick if he was even 1% the father you are to you kids.
Fuuuk it!!!
This was worth while dropping a post IMO..
JC is a solid Cat and he has a solid family....
And it ain't making Bin a fuuking cent AFAIC me dropping a post. Who is that guy???
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
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Been running some numbers this afternoon.
Since I don't have a lot of extra brass...i would buy used brass.
A friend is sending me links right now on prices.
200 to 225 is about as cheap as I could go.
Finding primers on sale would help.
I have a Lee 6 station progressive that we really like.
They way my family is going....maybe another press kit from Lee dedicated to just 9mm is in order eventually.
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Just bought them some non scratched glasses Dwayne.
Got an extra set of muffs too. Extry set o muffs. Dang. We didn't need no muffs when we wuz kids. You need ta tougnne thet boy up. Sheesh.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Jim,
I've got a bunch of extra hair tie goodies the boy can have it if his tresses get to blowing around too much and get into his eyes.
After cutting mine back from waist length to about a couple inches past my collar, it's finally back to 16" long or so now. I only need 3 or so hair ties to keep it in a nice pony tail. My wife was gracious enough to braid it for the months I was without the use of my right arm after surgery. Braided I only need two, one up top and one at the end.
Just say the word and I'll send up a few.
Signed, the Campfire longhair. (and barefoot boy)
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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Jim,
I've got a bunch of extra hair tie goodies the boy can have it if his tresses get to blowing around too much and get into his eyes.
After cutting mine back from waist length to about a couple inches past my collar, it's finally back to 16" long or so now. I only need 3 or so hair ties to keep it in a nice pony tail. My wife was gracious enough to braid it for the months I was without the use of my right arm after surgery. Braided I only need two, one up top and one at the end.
Just say the word and I'll send up a few.
Signed, the Campfire longhair. (and barefoot boy) Could do a hair bun?
GOA
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